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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-05 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2591 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
But people who were born into it didn't have a choice about being rich, and people who worked for it could have chosen to do other work that didn't earn them a disproportionate amount of money that could have gone to other people who need it.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
lolwat??

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
and people who worked for it could have chosen to do other work that didn't earn them a disproportionate amount of money that could have gone to other people who need it.

Because Bill Gates never gives to anyone.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Except that they frequently earn a "disproportionate amount of money" because that job cannot be done by just anyone--because it requires skills that take years to learn, is physically demanding, or is risky--or all three. But it's lovely that you think a master mason should earn the same as a Wal-mart cashier.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
Anon I Think You Replied To (not sure if you meant to reply to the anon I replied to?)

I do hope you know my Bill Gates comment was sarcasm...

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, comment misfire. That's my second time tonight.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
Mmmm, it also takes a lot of capital - hence, "capitalism". It's pretty hard to get rich without it. It also involves working off the backs of even more hard-working underpaid people to get truly rich, unless you're an entertainer who got very lucky and fed on people's cultural desires.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
You think you're being sarcastic, but in proportion to the amount of money he has, no, he basically doesn't give to anyone.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
You do know he's pledged it ALL to charity when he dies, right?

I do agree that the rich give a MUCH smaller percentage of their income to charity VS. the middle class. Your 10k donation is laughable when it's only .005 percent of your income.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
I really don't think that the people who have benefited from the billions of dollars he's given away (as well as his devotion and contribution to humanitarian causes) sit around and think, "gosh, man, proportionally speaking, he hasn't really given us anything! What a jerk!"

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Should I tell my daughter to drop out of medical school and go get a job at McDonalds because someday she's going to be evilly making a good income? Because that's what a moral being would do. Sheesh.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously. Yes, I believe in livable wages, and I certainly don't believe in looking down on anyone, but it goes both ways, and there's nothing wrong with working for things and getting them if you're honest about it.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, you should. She's going to end up working at McDonald's whether she goes to medical school or not.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Just because you ended up working at McDonald's doesn't mean we all will.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
Ahhh.. you know what they say about pride..?

Life can turn on a dime. A person can work hard, study hard, be a fantastic person.. then life can take a huge dump on them through circumstances beyond their control.

I hope, for your sake, that it never happens to you.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
And...you know what they say about misery wanting company?

Which is apparently the attitude of the person saying "Your daughter will end up working at McDonald's whether she completes medical school or not."

It's also why I take your smarmy little "I hope for your sake that it never happens to you" with a very large grain of salt.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-02-06 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Given the fact that you said this without any other evidence to said daughter's intelligence or capability, this is a really weird comment because it basically implies that nobody will ever be a doctor, and that's...obviously never going to be the case.

(Yeah, I know you were just being an asshole. Just one with a major argument flaw.)

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
And this is how ambition, self-reliance and a society crumbles.

I get that some people seem to make inordinate amounts of money, but how does that translate into other people being owed things they didn't work for?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
That's...no.

You are a fucking idiot. It makes absolutely no sense for people to choose jobs according to how little money they'll make in them, and if a significant enough portion of people decided to do that, society would not be able to function correctly. Why? Because a lot of well-paying jobs involve the provision of services that we kind of need. You know, like fucking medicine.

But I guess it would be better for us to suffer from previously preventable illnesses than for some people to make money, amiright?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
Honey, we need all sorts of jobs. Some are valued more than others. Try being a teacher. You'll find that one of the most crucial jobs in society in terms of giving a shit, is very poorly paid in most countries. Whereas there are SOOOO many useless doctors who can't diagnose out their own arses, or are completely insulting about it, who are being well paid for it. At my school, it wasn't the smart nerdy earnest ones who did medicine, it was the ones both the teachers and the rich parents hounded and paid tutors for. And so the system continues.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course we need all sorts of jobs. The person to whom I was replying was declaring that the only jobs anyone should take are the low-paid ones (and that a person's primary concern when taking a job should be how little it pays), which is stupid.

I agree with you that some very valuable professions are underpaid. And I agree that there are some awful doctors out there who got into it for the wrong reasons. But telling people that they should purposely avoid taking jobs that would pay above a certain threshold isn't much better than telling people that they should purposely avoid taking jobs that would pay beneath a certain threshold.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-07 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think AYRT objects to people becoming doctors, as long as they work for the same wage they'd earn from flipping burgers, possibly supplemented by garden produce and chickens.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-06 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
You're an idiot