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I think there's a difference between Veronica Lodge rich - born into it, snooty etc. - and people who worked for it and do not flaunt it, like my parents.

Does that make you Veronica?

Oh hell no, she drove me insane. In personality I was way more of a Betty. Which is my point.

But people who were born into it didn't have a choice about being rich, and people who worked for it could have chosen to do other work that didn't earn them a disproportionate amount of money that could have gone to other people who need it.

lolwat??

and people who worked for it could have chosen to do other work that didn't earn them a disproportionate amount of money that could have gone to other people who need it.

Because Bill Gates never gives to anyone.

Except that they frequently earn a "disproportionate amount of money" because that job cannot be done by just anyone--because it requires skills that take years to learn, is physically demanding, or is risky--or all three. But it's lovely that you think a master mason should earn the same as a Wal-mart cashier.

Anon I Think You Replied To (not sure if you meant to reply to the anon I replied to?)

I do hope you know my Bill Gates comment was sarcasm...

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(Anonymous) - 2014-02-06 03:38 (UTC) - Expand

Mmmm, it also takes a lot of capital - hence, "capitalism". It's pretty hard to get rich without it. It also involves working off the backs of even more hard-working underpaid people to get truly rich, unless you're an entertainer who got very lucky and fed on people's cultural desires.

You think you're being sarcastic, but in proportion to the amount of money he has, no, he basically doesn't give to anyone.

You do know he's pledged it ALL to charity when he dies, right?

I do agree that the rich give a MUCH smaller percentage of their income to charity VS. the middle class. Your 10k donation is laughable when it's only .005 percent of your income.

I really don't think that the people who have benefited from the billions of dollars he's given away (as well as his devotion and contribution to humanitarian causes) sit around and think, "gosh, man, proportionally speaking, he hasn't really given us anything! What a jerk!"

Should I tell my daughter to drop out of medical school and go get a job at McDonalds because someday she's going to be evilly making a good income? Because that's what a moral being would do. Sheesh.

Seriously. Yes, I believe in livable wages, and I certainly don't believe in looking down on anyone, but it goes both ways, and there's nothing wrong with working for things and getting them if you're honest about it.

Yes, you should. She's going to end up working at McDonald's whether she goes to medical school or not.

Just because you ended up working at McDonald's doesn't mean we all will.

(Anonymous) - 2014-02-06 10:44 (UTC) - Expand

(Anonymous) - 2014-02-06 20:25 (UTC) - Expand

Given the fact that you said this without any other evidence to said daughter's intelligence or capability, this is a really weird comment because it basically implies that nobody will ever be a doctor, and that's...obviously never going to be the case.

(Yeah, I know you were just being an asshole. Just one with a major argument flaw.)

And this is how ambition, self-reliance and a society crumbles.

I get that some people seem to make inordinate amounts of money, but how does that translate into other people being owed things they didn't work for?

Exactly.

That's...no.

You are a fucking idiot. It makes absolutely no sense for people to choose jobs according to how little money they'll make in them, and if a significant enough portion of people decided to do that, society would not be able to function correctly. Why? Because a lot of well-paying jobs involve the provision of services that we kind of need. You know, like fucking medicine.

But I guess it would be better for us to suffer from previously preventable illnesses than for some people to make money, amiright?

Honey, we need all sorts of jobs. Some are valued more than others. Try being a teacher. You'll find that one of the most crucial jobs in society in terms of giving a shit, is very poorly paid in most countries. Whereas there are SOOOO many useless doctors who can't diagnose out their own arses, or are completely insulting about it, who are being well paid for it. At my school, it wasn't the smart nerdy earnest ones who did medicine, it was the ones both the teachers and the rich parents hounded and paid tutors for. And so the system continues.

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(Anonymous) - 2014-02-07 01:05 (UTC) - Expand

You're an idiot

It's not about flaunting it. The visible signs of wealth are not important, the behaviors and beliefs and attitudes are what's important. What matters is whether or not your parents are part of the effort that the wealthy (as a class) have led to destroy any program or tendency that does anything other than increase their wealth and funnel all the money in society to them, and inculcate the belief that the poor are poor because they are lesser than other people. If you (a hypothetical you - not you, specifically, OP) are out there campaigning against any and all social safety nets, campaigning against any and all financial regulations, campaigning against any and all tax obligations, I don't give a shit whether or not you were born into wealth. You're still a shithead.

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