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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-08 03:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2594 ]


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Re: I hate people, who...

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-02-09 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, there's a good chance they don't realize the teacher has feelings. I know for sure that American society tends to encourage and perpetuate the idea that teachers are education robots or extremely professionally detached (Why? Ugh, long story). This sentiment seeps into popular culture, which America tends to export everywhere else, so while I don't know what country you are in, OP, there's a very good change that the students' inability to recognize their teachers as independent individuals with their own minds, hearts, and feelings is due to the popular culture they grew up with.

On one hand, I can generally empathize with a lot of student apathy or antipathy towards teachers...but those are usually very specific situations and contexts. Most of the time - yeah, this attitude that somehow students are supposed to disrespect teachers is bizarre.

I had a rather timid science teacher in 9th grade, and I lost count of how often he had to call in security to handle a rowdy class. The worst part was that it wasn't even most of the class - most of us were just sitting there and either trying to do the work, or just doing our own thing because nothing of import (class/subject-wise) was happening. It was about a third to a half of the students, at most, who were being assholes.

I had a lot of classmates from this particular class in my other classes, too, and for many of them, they were the distracting ones across the board the teachers had to put a lot of effort into controlling. Worst, though, was that of that third-to-half contingent from the science class, only half were rowdy across the board. The other half could absolutely be quiet and respectful, until they got riled up by that first half.

This was the biggest reason I tried so hard to get into advanced classes as I moved up through high school. The higher you go, then the less immature the class as a collective whole is in comparison to regular level classes.

In my last year of high school, I worked as an after-school tutor for around two dozen failing 10th graders, most or all of them boys depending on the month's rotation. There was always one or two kids who would be the ones distracting everyone else and turning them into a riot (one in particular, actually). The moment I moved that kid to a portion of the classroom separated from the rest of the students, those students calmed down (mostly - separated from doesn't mean cut-off from, and this guy was loud). It's always been my experience there's usually a handful of students or only one student who is actually an asshole - everyone else just goes along with them, and then can calm down and be a nice student once that 'critical mass student' (as I and some other teachers called them) were separated from that environment.

The really depressing part is that most of those asshole types aren't even inherently bad kids. I only got to really know much about some of them, but definitely many of them seemed to come from unstable home situations. I'm pretty sure a lot of them just wanted attention to make up for a severe lack of attention at home. That doesn't mean they're not assholes for taking their personal problems and lashing out at teachers, or even that this is some absolute causation pattern. It's just a trend that makes me sad when I think about education culture today.