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DA

Both sides of this argument are being a tad elitist about the other side, which is kind of funny... and sad. There's nothing wrong with enjoying EITHER fiction/literature OR YA with vampires, fairies and magic.

Some of us enjoy both.

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Fwiw I also bemoan the lack of good adult reading. To me, YA is like candy. It's yummy and fun, but if you eat candy all day you lose appreciation for 'real' food, and eating it becomes a drag. That said, I personally get a lot of satisfaction from digging through this classics, even though I admit that I too have a tendency to want to read easy, relaxing fluff.

Edited 2014-02-10 00:47 (UTC)

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Sadly, yes. That is exactly what they say... I mean, for me it's a bit weird because if I go too long without what's considered literature I start feeling like I'm not even reading at all, and rush for something heavy and satisfying.

But what about all the candy that boasts 100% of your daily vitamin C!? :P

/don't mind me, just bein' a doof for the sake of bein' a doof

Edited 2014-02-10 02:15 (UTC)

I've been reading a few different types of books for a fandom project and YA is like, well, it's often pretty superficial to me. What you see is what get. Fun and fast moving, but the atmosphere does not tend to infect your mind and inspire strange and wonderful thoughts. Well, ymmv anyway. But sometimes I don't wanna put in the brain effort and get subtly challenged and changed, I just wanna read a fun book. Ideally both types would be popular but I get why they aren't. I just wish sometimes all people would read and watch something that goes beyond everyday tangible thoughts and wish-fulfilment. Maybe that's elitist of me.

This is why I like YA. When I read, I read because I want a good story that keeps me turning the pages until the very end. I put in enough brain effort at work already, and most of my hobbies are the creative sort on top of that. Reading is something I do for fun and relaxation and I'm really not interested in slogging through something dense.

“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”

--C.S. Lewis

There really needs to be YA vs adult literature debate bingo.

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I have read those as well as some of his other works (including, yes, Narnia).

I actually don't read YA (the current paranormal romance trend doesn't interest me). But I think adults and children should be able to read whatever interest them and me reading "adult" books, instead of YA, doesn't make more intellectual.

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(Anonymous) - 2014-02-10 14:38 (UTC) - Expand

This! Thank you!

Of course you are the only special person here and in the rest of the world who prefers grown-up books! You nailed it perfectly again!
I don't really know what complexes you have but please grow up.

And then there are us nonfiction weirdos! :P

(I like a lot of fiction, too, but I'm not nuts about either conventional genre fiction/YA or most capital L literature.)

Firstly (if you had read it right) I finished university long ago so I'm no longer "forced" to read anything.

Secondly I read anything what sounds interesting to me - that can be Shakespeare or Harry Potter - but obviously your are psychic and you know exactly what I read (despite writing that I read anything what interests me - and that doesn't exclude literature books)

But I also think as an adult you shouldn't go around pretending to be a psychiatrist.

I will never understand the need of people like you to gloat about other peoples reading choices.

Don't you know that she's a super-special psychiatrist and psychologist and therefor knows everything about you even when you wrote just a few sentences? Oh wait no I'm wrong, you're right - she just liked to pretend she is all that until people called her out on her shit. Actually she's just like a office assistant but she tries her hardest to come off as an super-intellectual.
To be fair (I'm using my psychic powers here!!) I think she's quite young, so I don't judge her so hard.

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You know that YA is not only about vampires, fairies (I confess I haven't seen a YA book about fairies yet), magic and high school? No? Perhaps you should revisit the youth section again or better study a bit about the different types of literature.

And please don't act all high and mighty here ("I'm the only one who prefers grown-up books" - of course, you are the only one and therefor better; and when people hang around the YA section they read of course only this type of books because you know this just by looking at them - no, they don't read different types of literature or are just there to buy a book for someone else! etc.) when you can't even be adult enough to tell the truth about your work. How you even got the office job without even graduating High School is beyond me. And thankfully you are not really a psychiatrist working with patients.

When you read sentences like this clearly you're only in the Fiction/Literature section because you're forced to, and obviously if you "read what you want to read" that excludes anything older than Tolkien or without vampires, fairies, magic and high school you know immediately that the person has next to no knowledge about literature.

They get their reading tips from the Hipster 101 Bible (beware if they would make their own choices regarding reading - no, the book must be hip and the plot should be really complicated and ~deep) and if you argument with them why you didn't like this "amazing" book you will be (of course) answered with: "That's because you didn't understand it".

You'll find this type often at the university (I swear there were tons of this type) and they usually only read the books who are known as deeply psychological, with lots of metaphors or so-called "masterpieces".
Critic of these books is not allowed (they don't care how good your arguments are, you just didn't understand it!!!!)

If you want to discuss other books, especially ones not so well known from other countries you are met with blank stares and the statement that the book can't be very good because "I haven't heard about it".

You can see these types in bookstores, often looking superiorly at other customers who don't have their sophisticated taste in books. If they are in a group they can also be seen/heard loudly complaining about the lack of "real, good literature" because in the store are only books for "the common people".

If you meet such persons run as fast as you can because they'll likely know not just everything better than you about books but about everything else too. They will suck the joy out of you!!

I know this all is exaggerated but nothing grates me more than the superior feeling some people get out of the reading matter. And I did met people who where exactly like this - always harping about books other people enjoy.

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