[ SECRET POST #2595 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2595 ⌋

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Comments

[applemagpie]

I think you've summed up LGBT issues in Japan well. They're certainly not non-existent (for example, there was a LGBT club at a university I attended in Japan), but the common concepts of homosexuality and being transgender are really not the same in Japan as they are in the West.
(I mean, I'm sure it's no great secret to anyone in Japan that there's gay sex in the Tale of Genji, which is taught in Japanese schools. But that also has nothing to do with being accepting of homosexuality)

So when Isayama mentions that his characters' genders don't matter, I don't think he's conflating anything of what he's saying with LGBT issues.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sure it's no great secret to anyone in Japan that there's gay sex in the Tale of Genji, which is taught in Japanese schools. But that also has nothing to do with being accepting of homosexuality

The same for all the anime and manga that have canon gay characters. It's great that Haruka and Michiru gave a lot of girls positive lesbian role models, but they weren't a statement about Japan's acceptance of homosexuality like Western fandom still sometimes thinks. (And they weren't really even open to other people in the series about their relationship.)

[(Anonymous)]

As far as I can see, most canon gay characters in non-BL/GL manga and anime are humorous stereotypes. And while I love BL and GL, it truly is not representative of Japan's views of homosexuality. Who knows, maybe it is helping some people be more open minded, but then again, being a BL fangirl is also something you keep in the closet, so.

[(Anonymous)]

I have just started reading Tale of Genji, and while there is gay sex in it, it's only (so far) between an adult man (Genji himself) and a boy who hero worships him and also happens to be his servant. All Genji's other relationships are also of the doomed, forbidden sort (married women etc).

If one of the few mainstream representations of gay relationships in Japan is Tale of Genji... No wonder being out and gay is not taken seriously as a normal, boring life option.

[applemagpie]

Haha, yes, that's pretty all of the gay sex there is in the Tale of Genji.
I didn't mean to state that people in Japan are taking the Tale of Genji as the representation of what a gay relationship is. I just brought it up to illustrate how homosexuality doesn't have the same 'sinful' and 'corrupting' connotations in Japan that it has in the West. I doubt there would be any way a book with gay sex in it would be freely allowed to be taught in high schools in say, the United States. Parents and religious groups would have got it banned.