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⌈ Secret Post #2597 ⌋

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08. http://i.imgur.com/Y3hQNvv.jpg

And somewhere the lyricists are probably shaking each others' hands that *someone* was squicked by it.

I just want to say that Fixer Upper is now one of my fave Disney songs. It's adorable and catchy and I think it has a lovely message. Idgaf that it dismisses Elsa's engagement. All's fair in love and war. No regrets!!!1!

AND BY THE WAY, I DON'T SEE NO RING

YEAH BOI

I thought it was Anna who as engaged?

I think even acknowledging the engagement makes it cuter--because of course cosmically we know that Hans isn't right for Anna and we get to see Kristoff trying to protest on the basis of Anna's dignity and agency at having already chosen, regardless of what the trolls want.

https://www.facebook.com/decentfilms/posts/674975259220486?stream_ref=10

I totally missed it.

Anyway I have two friends called Sven and Kristof so that sort of made that whole thing weird for me in the first place.

Just read the lyrics. ...Still don't see what the hell you're talking about.

his thing for the reindeer
That's outside a few of nature's laws

How did I just read the entire lyric sheet that was posted on the Disney website and miss that?

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(Anonymous) - 2014-02-13 00:18 (UTC) - Expand

Is that the song the trolls sing? If so, that was my least favorite part of the movie and I wasn't paying close attention to the lyrics.

You're making this up aren't you? (Haven't seen the movie.)

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queerwolf - 2014-02-12 02:25 (UTC) - Expand

What? You mean you weren't charmed by the comic-relief side characters interrupting their possibly-stolen adopted child's "Help, my friend may be dying" plea in order to sing at length about how his possibly-dying friend should totally hook up with him?

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(Anonymous) - 2014-02-12 06:20 (UTC) - Expand

It was a bad song already. The joke I didn't care about though. But eh, at least it didn't ruin a song you would have otherwise liked?

I totally thought they were saying his relationship with Sven was weird because 1) he let's the reindeer eat the carrot BEFORE he does and that thing slobber, 2) he makes up voices for Sven so he doesn't feel bad for talking to himself, and 3) he is supposedly telepathic with Sven. I have that song on insane-repeat along with the other Frozen songs (except Olaf's, he can melt and I wouldn't care), and beastiality never once came to mind.

the entire song was complete garbage tbh

I love the song, unashamedly. It kind of bugs me when people say it's pointless.

It's pretty much the only glimpse we get into Kristoff's life, his family, how he grew up, etc. Things like they're pointing out his non-troll features as flaws to be fixed up (blond hair, different shaped feet, wearing clothes) and it honestly makes me wish there was a whole movie for Kristoff because orphan? kid taken in by trolls? It seems like there's just so much that could be done with that.

Olaf's song on the other hand was... he likes warm/summer and has no idea that he'll melt. Which they quickly established without needing a song. And continued to reference. The song wasn't terrible, but it actually was entirely unnecessary. (A song about how he was Anna and Elsa's snowman and watched them play and now he wants them to be together again? Sappy but would have a purpose)

And the bestiality line was one of my favorites because it was so terrible. I love terrible suggestive bits like that in kids shows. ("What do you do when you first wake up" "Well usually I need to..." "After that!" "Oh, eat!" )

YAY ANOTHER DRAGONS FAN IN THE HOUSE *highfive* "Hey Fishlegs, why don't you pull your nose out of Hiccup's-" :D

~~fandom so empty outside of gifsets and inane Tumblr posts :(~~

Back on point, though - Olaf's song genuinely confused me in that it had pretty much NO connection to the rest of the story that wasn't already established elsewhere. The only thing it told us was that he had no idea that he'd melt/die in this dream situation of his. Otheriwse, it was just...it felt like filler, if that makes any sense. I like Olaf in a general sense, but that song made his character feel shoe-horned in and obnoxious.

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nyxelestia - 2014-02-12 16:36 (UTC) - Expand

I think it definitely broke up the pacing of the movie, which wasn't a good idea. But I do love the song on its own, and while its placement isn't great, I'm overall happy that it exists. It has some great character animation, it conveys a lot about their relationship and Kristoff especially, and the song itself has a great message (I really appreciate they make a note of 'you can't really change people', because otherwise everyone would have taken umbrage).

Anyway, I didn't even interpret the lines as meaning beastiality.

Yeah, plus "people make bad choices when they're sad or scared or stressed". That directly relates to Anna and Elsa and there's a Significant Close-Up on Anna during the line.

Olaf's song just had nothing to do with anything and wasn't even half as catchy.

Seriously.
I understand people maybe not liking the song, because musical numbers can always be polarising in that sense, but to say it has no narrative importance is baffling.
The song establishes the film's message. While outwardly it seems to be about Anna and Kristoff (and it certainly is about that too), it also reaffirms the idea that love towards others doesn't change them, but can help them to see beyond troubles (!) and to bring out the best in them.
Elsa needed to realise that her sister did not fear her, but needed her to share the bond they once had. Fixer Upper is telling us that this is what Elsa needs, underneath it all.
It also ties in with the film's entire thing about redefining True Love. Here we have a song that sounds like it is a typical affirmation of a true love message, but instead if you listen closely, it subtly again points to the fact that it will be sisterly love that matters and pulls Elsa out of her internal conflict.

Fixer Upper is an odd song in positioning. It's weird in terms of pacing, and I see that, but it isn't a complete dud in terms of what it says and does for the story.

Isn't it about the talking for/to Sven and Sven seemingly understanding thing....?

That one line was probably the only part of the song that actually made my mouth twitch with a smile.

For the record, I hate the song because it's annoying, poorly timed, and sung by pointless and worthless characters (seriously, Disney, please don't put in characters who could have solved the major issue of the film if they had actually taught Elsa how to control her magic rather than just give her parents vague advice!)

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