[ SECRET POST #2597 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2597 ⌋

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Comments

[duaedesigns]

I love the song, unashamedly. It kind of bugs me when people say it's pointless.

It's pretty much the only glimpse we get into Kristoff's life, his family, how he grew up, etc. Things like they're pointing out his non-troll features as flaws to be fixed up (blond hair, different shaped feet, wearing clothes) and it honestly makes me wish there was a whole movie for Kristoff because orphan? kid taken in by trolls? It seems like there's just so much that could be done with that.

Olaf's song on the other hand was... he likes warm/summer and has no idea that he'll melt. Which they quickly established without needing a song. And continued to reference. The song wasn't terrible, but it actually was entirely unnecessary. (A song about how he was Anna and Elsa's snowman and watched them play and now he wants them to be together again? Sappy but would have a purpose)

And the bestiality line was one of my favorites because it was so terrible. I love terrible suggestive bits like that in kids shows. ("What do you do when you first wake up" "Well usually I need to..." "After that!" "Oh, eat!" )

[nyxelestia]

YAY ANOTHER DRAGONS FAN IN THE HOUSE *highfive* "Hey Fishlegs, why don't you pull your nose out of Hiccup's-" :D

fandom so empty outside of gifsets and inane Tumblr posts :(

Back on point, though - Olaf's song genuinely confused me in that it had pretty much NO connection to the rest of the story that wasn't already established elsewhere. The only thing it told us was that he had no idea that he'd melt/die in this dream situation of his. Otheriwse, it was just...it felt like filler, if that makes any sense. I like Olaf in a general sense, but that song made his character feel shoe-horned in and obnoxious.

[duaedesigns]

It's an adorable show and surprisingly well done/written for being a movie tie-in designed to sell toys. I'm hoping to help my husband make a Dagur costume for cons as soon as we get some free time.

And I didn't expect to like Olaf, but I did in the rest of it, just.. the song was entirely unneeded. It was an overly long setup for the "I'm gonna tell him!" "Don't you dare"

[nyxelestia]

I know, I initially popped in just to see if there was anything continuity-wise I needed to know about, but now I love it! It and Agents of SHIELD are the only shows I watch, right now. It makes me sad that there isn't more fanfic (seriously, so much angst potential from the second half of the first season!). :(

[(Anonymous)]

I think it definitely broke up the pacing of the movie, which wasn't a good idea. But I do love the song on its own, and while its placement isn't great, I'm overall happy that it exists. It has some great character animation, it conveys a lot about their relationship and Kristoff especially, and the song itself has a great message (I really appreciate they make a note of 'you can't really change people', because otherwise everyone would have taken umbrage).

Anyway, I didn't even interpret the lines as meaning beastiality.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, plus "people make bad choices when they're sad or scared or stressed". That directly relates to Anna and Elsa and there's a Significant Close-Up on Anna during the line.

Olaf's song just had nothing to do with anything and wasn't even half as catchy.

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously.
I understand people maybe not liking the song, because musical numbers can always be polarising in that sense, but to say it has no narrative importance is baffling.
The song establishes the film's message. While outwardly it seems to be about Anna and Kristoff (and it certainly is about that too), it also reaffirms the idea that love towards others doesn't change them, but can help them to see beyond troubles (!) and to bring out the best in them.
Elsa needed to realise that her sister did not fear her, but needed her to share the bond they once had. Fixer Upper is telling us that this is what Elsa needs, underneath it all.
It also ties in with the film's entire thing about redefining True Love. Here we have a song that sounds like it is a typical affirmation of a true love message, but instead if you listen closely, it subtly again points to the fact that it will be sisterly love that matters and pulls Elsa out of her internal conflict.

Fixer Upper is an odd song in positioning. It's weird in terms of pacing, and I see that, but it isn't a complete dud in terms of what it says and does for the story.