[ SECRET POST #2597 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2597 ⌋

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Comments

[sarillia]

I think very few shows need 7 seasons. Every time I hear a show that went past about 4 or 5 seasons is ending, even if I like it, my response is generally "about time".

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. Most of my favorite shows were great for maybe three seasons and then started a downward spiral. At that point they have told the most interesting stories and after that it's more and more just going through the motions. I can't see Hannibal being much different.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. That's part of the reason I have a lot of difficulty sticking with many popular American shows. I just can't stay invested in 6+ seasons with 20+ episodes each season. The longer its drawn out, the more it starts feeling like a chore to watch. Especially if the writing starts declining because they run out of ideas.

[iceyred]

Same. The writers' eventually run out of stories to write. It happened to Xena, it happened to Highlander, it sure happened to Lost, and it'll happen to Hannibal.

[(Anonymous)]

Not to mention, Xena and Lost had more potential to stretch out for multiple seasons and the writers still screwed it up. I can't imagine a concept as limited as Hannibal working any better. :(

(Don't get me wrong, I love Hannibal to pieces. But I can't see it working for more than 4 or 5 seasons).

[iceyred]

Xena and Gabby ran out of interesting things to do in Greece so they had to travel everywhere and meet all the gods/demons/whatever in that part of the world. (I did like their version of The Ring, with the Valkryies and all.)

Lost was like, 'Here is a new character that will die before you care about them. They are A's half-sibling, have slept with B, showed up in C's backstory three seasons ago, and are on a quest to kill D. Oh, and just to make it more confusing they will show up again in two seasons as a ghost/smoke monster/hallucination.'

[(Anonymous)]

I can't see it going on for much longer than two seasons now that Will knows Hannibal is a killer. Unless they're planning on having Hannibal consulting him from behind bars from S3 on.

[(Anonymous)]

THIS.

7 seasons is too much, most writers can't drag a plot out that long.

Look at what happened to Supernatural. It should have ended in Season 5. Hell, it practically did.

[(Anonymous)]

This, this, THIS. This is a topic I feel strongly about.

A police procedural like Law & Order or NCIS can last for many seasons because that type of thing is more plot-driven than character-driven, but sitcoms *need* to stop lasting for eight, ten, or eleven seasons. The entire concept of "jumping the shark" would not exist if people knew when to call it quits.

Even the really great sitcoms like Frasier and Seinfeld faltered a bit in their later years. Big Bang Theory has become an absolute tragedy.

In Asia and in the UK, for example, TV series last for only a few years.

Quantity is the enemy of quality. I would like to see a greater variety of formats for TV shows: more mini-series, maybe a series with a grand total of only ten to twenty one-hour episodes, etc.

No more twelve-year sitcoms, for crying out loud. *please* Three or four seasons is perfect, IMO.

[(Anonymous)]

Personally, I thought Seinfeld was one of the few sitcoms that remained consistently great. The characters weren't flanderized to the point of being obnoxious and while the stories got more "out there" and wacky, it was still entertaining and funny. I'd say the only really weak episodes were the final two. Meanwhile, Frasier and Friends really became awful by the end.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, I don't believe Seinfeld ever jumped the shark, I guess it might be more accurate to say that the later seasons aren't my favorites. But I see what you mean.

[feotakahari]

Was Gunsmoke any good? It lasted twenty freaking seasons, so clearly someone was watching it.

[(Anonymous)]

This is what I'm saying. An action-based show can last longer than a sitcom, because it's more plot-driven rather than character-driven.

With a cop/detective/medical/action type of show, there's a "case of the week" or "mystery of the week", and many episodes are self-contained. The very nature of the format means that there will be a new storyline (new patient, new murder, new whatever) in each episode.

Before people start objecting, I'm not saying there's *zero* character-based stuff in a cop/detective/medical type of show, because of course there is.

But in a sitcom, the characters and their personalities are all you have. There's nowhere else to go. There is nothing external to the characters and their interactions and their quirks. The characters' jobs or other aspects of their lives aren't the center of the plot, they're usually just vehicles for more jokes.

A sitcom can do nothing but collapse inwards onto itself.

Now, obviously, there is plenty of genre-blending nowadays, and I'm not saying there's never any comedy in a detective show or vice versa. TV shows are more complex than they used to be in past decades; I'm not saying that the cop/detective/action shows of today are like "Dragnet" or "Perry Mason." There are more story-arcs, more attempts at character development, et cetera.

But when nobody's hunting vampires, chasing outlaws, diagnosing a patient, or solving a murder, it becomes harder and harder to find something for your characters to DO. And so, a sitcom starts repeating the same old jokes and dialing the characters' personality-quirks up to eleven, because there isn't any plot. The characters themselves are the only source of material.

[(Anonymous)]

idk I could've done with a sixth season of Breaking Bad, s5 practically gave me whiplash.