[ SECRET POST #2597 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2597 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

TBH I thought they'd added in the romance partially to make the whole thing more depressing, especially for the people who know what's coming. But then I'm one of those awful human beings who finds completely happy endings anti-climactic.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[truxillogical]

Yeah, I kinda thought that was the point too. Like with Boromir--in the movie, they give him more depth and personality, more sweet scenes with Merry and Pippin, just generally more to make his death really hit.

Same here. Kili gets an almost-romance and talks about his mother (because I guess he doesn't have a photo of his sweetheart back home, right?), Kili and Fili get touching brotherhood moments...all just to make sure their deaths have emotional impact.

[lunabee34]

I agree with that. Their deaths have almost no emotional impact for me in the book because we don't learn enough about them and they have little depth (IMHO; YMMV). I thought the whole purpose of the movies was to give the characters dimension so their deaths matter.

[ryttu3k]

Yeah. It was pretty much... Thorin had his death scene, and then there was an, "Oh and Fili and Kili also died" line and that's basically... it. Pretty much all we knew about them were that they were Thorin's nephews and had yellow beards, and my main reaction was, "Well, there's still ten other dwarves around."

In the movies, though? You care about them more as characters - all the dwarves are like that, actually. (I actually HAVE favourite dwarves now, Bofur and Ori, whereas before the only ones who seemed to have any semblance of personality were Thorin and Balin.) I imagine that they're going to elaborate more on their deaths in the film, and I also imagine half the cinema will be bawling, but getting an emotional reaction is a win for storytelling.

[lunabee34]

*nodding along with everything you're saying here*

And then Balin's death in the future becomes more meaningful too because we get to know him even more in the movies than in the book.

[ryttu3k]

Yeah - and oh jeez, knowing that the skeleton holding the book, the dwarf who wrote their last days, is Ori? Sweet dorky Ori with his slingshot and his declaration of dwarvish iron right up Smaug's jacksie and Dori fussing over him and his distrust of green food and he'd just like some chips, please? Watching An Unexpected Journey then watching Fellowship again was kind of like a gutpunch when I got to that part, because now Ori actually had a character.

[lunabee34]

I had missed that part somehow. Oh, Ori!! *sniffles*

[ryttu3k]

Oh - yeah, it wasn't mentioned in the movies but was in the books :( (The books also mention that the Watcher in the Water killed Oin.) Just picturing sweet little Ori hastily scrawling, "We cannot get out, they are coming"? Yeah D:

[lunabee34]

:( :(

It's been awhile since I read the books. i'm sure I knew that at some point long long ago LOL

[(Anonymous)]

What's funny about this comment on a Hobbit secret is that Tolkien coined a term (eucatastrophe) for an ending so happy, the feeling of happiness is indistinguishable from pain. You're so happy, it hurts. He felt it was one of the strong points of fantasy narratives.