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what does everyone think of this article?

http://catholicexchange.com/in-defense-of-dumbledore

It had a sign me up for the newsletter and used the word brouhaha.

I stopped reading after that.

here's another link
http://ashleyawesome.com/2007/10/24/in-defense-of-dumbledore/

Nm its a different article

catholicexchange

Why do I have a feeling this is going to be homophobic?

Blah blah blah blah blah listen to me pretend to know anything blah blah blah imma embarass my fellow Catholics now blah blah blah do ai sound pretentious enough yet? blah blah blah here's some stuff that has nothing to do with Harry Potter or Dumbledore and has never been taught in any Bible study Iceyred has ever attended blah blah blah this is from 2007 who cares?

Hence, in the Harry Potter books, the one person we know about thus far who made an attempt to pursue the gay lifestyle: 1) lost his sense of morality, 2) attempted to abandon his responsibility as head, protector, and provider of a family, and 3) the casualty was a girl, in this case his younger sister, who ended up dead because of his negligence.

I would hardly call this an endorsement of the gay lifestyle.

Congrats. You copied and pasted a part of the article. I'm very proud of you.

In case anybody missed it, here's some stuff from Pope Frank (and some other people):

http://www.advocate.com/politics/religion/2013/10/10/pope-francis-writes-private-letter-gay-catholics

http://www.advocate.com/politics/transgender/2013/12/31/funeral-murdered-trans-woman-held-popes-church

http://www.catholicregister.org/news/international/item/17553-indian-cardinal-opposed-to-criminalization-of-same-sex-relationships

http://www.advocate.com/politics/religion/2013/09/19/pope-francis-church-shouldnt-interfere-spiritually-lgbt-lives

I'm not about to give the Church an A+ for it's modern treatment of the LGBT community, but what the OP posted is not representative of the Catholic faith.

To be fair, the article was written before Francis was pope. And that's not to say there aren't many other Catholics who are perfectly fine with LGBT people; I went to Catholic school in a pretty liberal area and know a ton of them. And ftr, I'm queer and non-Catholic.

Good points. I just get tired of people constantly screaming about the ebul Catlics and our constant hate and homophobia. I'm not the brightest crayon in the box, and I dunno half of what language to use and what's considered condescending and/or used only in academic research now, but I'm not a hate monger and neither is anybody I'm close to at Church.

DA, but +1

Yeah.

I'm not a Catholic anymore, but people say this stuff, and I compare it to the people I knew growing up - the priests and the nuns and the teachers and the lay community - and it just has no resemblance to my experience.

"the gay lifestyle"

ahahahAHAHAHAHAHA.

Nothing worth discussion.

I think of what someone like Chesterton would have said in response and I get real mad.

Lost me at "I believe that the three most destructive forces in our culture are divorce, contraception, and pornography."

And here I thought those three things make the human race less miserable than they'd otherwise be!

From the classic Catholic perspective, that's exactly the problem. 9_9

It's really, really not. The classic Catholic perspective really is that divorce, contraception, and pornography really do make people more miserable, and that people would be less miserable if they didn't exist. I disagree with all of those stances, but that's not a reason to distort the reasons people have for making those arguments.

Also I don't think that the viewpoint outlined in the essay is actually that much of a classic Catholic perspective, but w/e.

Apologies, let me clarify: the old-school Catholic doctrine supposed that people are not meant to be happy in this life, and anything that exists purely for pleasure or to make Earthly life easier is inherently suspect. Most contemporary Catholics have outgrown that idea, it's true, though I'm not sure what Rome's current official stance is (as opposed to the current Pope's interpretation, which seems very encouraging.)

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(Anonymous) - 2014-02-12 18:29 (UTC) - Expand

As opposed to war, poverty, systematic injustice & inequality on a global scale...

I'm sure someone is willing to try to argue those things are caused by divorce and contraception...

"Rowling has seemed equally blasé, revealing first that she is a Christian (incensing her secularist fans)"

...Some of my best and closest friends are staunchly religious? Whoever wrote this article has some very strange ideas *shrug*

Will people call me ableist if I use the phrase "batshit nuts"?

That depends. You might be insulting bats who have a medical condition resulting in constant constipation and are unable to shit.

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