[ SECRET POST #2598 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2598 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 031 secrets from Secret Submission Post #371.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm not going to tell you not to be a book-purist, but I don't think that death counts as fridging. It wasn't particularly motivating, it had another reason in-story (war sucks, period medicine sucked), and it had another reason out-of-story (they wanted to get rid of the extra character to return the main character to having one true friend).

[intrigueing]

IMO, there's nothing wrong with fridging per se, just with the fact it's disproportionately done to women and minorities to motivate white men.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not going to tell you not to be a book purist either. I'm just asking you not to start any wank over it in the fandom. Those of us who love Archie and were very touched by his character, story and death have a right to all these things. He is just as important to us as the book storyline is to you.

[blind_bard]

I don't see any wank here. OP is posting their opinion here as a secret probably just for that very reason, not to upset fandom. You have every right to love Archie in peace, but the OP has a right to a place in which to voice their opinion as well. You have the fortune to find your opinions on this character reflected in fandom everywhere you look. They don't. So just let them vent here, since they can't anywhere else.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think anyone was accusing the OP of wank here. But there's no way of knowing whether OP is or is not going to go into the fandom (the tags on tumblr etc, other places where the fandom gathers) to start wank there. They wouldn't be the first one.

[(Anonymous)]

While I agree - I don't like Archie and the way the writers even gave him some of Bush's lines and reactions in Mutiny and I think it's sad that there is so much more Archie centric fic compared to Bush centric fic, I am still glad that the fandom is a pretty nice little space where most people are pretty tolerant.
I see why they thought it would be useful to include the Archie character for the series - the same reason why they kept re-using the crew members - but it still was a bit much Archie for my tastes. A bit like the Tauriel situation, really: I wouldn't mind her if she didn't play such a large role despite not existing in the book.

[blind_bard]

It's funny. Because I started watching the show a month before I began reading the book, but Archie has always bothered me but I could never quite tell why. And now a couple of years on Archie clearly is my least favourite thing about the show, and I think I have to agree with you.

But on the other hand I think a friendless young Hornblower wouldn't have worked on TV, since you're not looking into his mind on the show. So the writers needed to introduce an external factor to humanise Hornblower, and they chose Archie. Yes, it does mean TV!Hornblower is fundamentally different from book!Hornblower, but book!Hornblower really wouldn't have worked as well on TV. Introducing Archie for the first episode was a brilliant idea. Only they really, really, REALLY shouldn't have brought him back after killing him off the first time.

[(Anonymous)]

Archie Kennedy does exist in the books and he and Hornblower do seem to get along in the two paragraphs he's in. So the sceenwriters weren't completely out of line when they decided tom expand his role.

That said, I hated how they kept giving him stuff that was originally said/done by Bush or Bracegirdle (anyone remember him?). And I'm of two minds about his death. On the one hand, OH THANK GOD HE'S FINALLY BEING WRITTEN OUT. On the other, they milked it for all it was worth, turning a drama-free moment into a long drawn-out super-tragic SOBFEST. And because he was Horatio's First And Best Friend(TM), he never had the close Relationship with Bush he was supposed to have.

Ah well. There's always the books and book!fic.