[ SECRET POST #2598 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2598 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, I never got the criticism of the cows. Are they stereotyped? Yes. But they're some of the most positive characters in that film. The moment they learn what the poor kid's been through, they feel fucking awful for making fun of him and then turn around and try to find some kind of way to help him. Which is different from most of the characters in there coded white, like the other elephants or the clowns ("ELEPHANTS DON'T HAVE FEELINGS!!!!"), etc. They're the only ones besides Timothy who stick their goddamn necks out for the kid. And by the standards of back then? That was PROGRESSIVE AS FUCK.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it was progressive at the time. But these days, throwing in a character named Jim Crow and a bunch of stereotypes, even "positive" ones is generally frowned on. It's the sort of thing that needs awareness, if not necessarily condemnation, and that's why I'd talk with a kid about it. Because kids don't know, and that can result in them saying some thoughtless things.

Heck, I picked the wrong example. If I'd gone with the "Red Man" song from Peter Pan, maybe everyone would've gotten the point--old media is often problematic and showcases attitudes and stereotypes that we don't subscribe to anymore, and if you're going to show it to kids (and there often is a lot of really cool stuff there), then it's a good idea to have a conversation with them, on their level, about that.

Besides, I'd think you'd need to have a conversation with your child after Dumbo anyway: abandonment issues, torture, scary men in shadows, underage drinking, and violent hallucinations...yeah, it's a messed up movie.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. I guess my main thing is people keep citing the crows as negative characters who are terrible, when they're some of the nicest people in the goddamn movie to that poor kid.

[(Anonymous)]

I liked the Crows best as a kid. But they're still basically representative of a host of awkward stereotypes--jazzy, Jive-talkin' magical negro figures and all.

But a penny in the "Well, they're portrayed as nice so it's ok!" bucket.