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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-15 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2601 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2601 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-15 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh you beautiful troll. You almost had a point, too.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-15 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
...How are they a troll? Batfamily should include the girls.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-15 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I assume the last line at the bottom, which I missed my first read-over. (Although from what I know about Jason, saying he's less loved is not particularly trollish.)

(Anonymous) 2014-02-15 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The last line on the secret. That's fine wankbait. I mean, who "Bruce loves best" is 1) irrelevant to who was or wasn't Robin, and 2) really depends on the writer and your own reading.

There are a few possible takes on this lineup, it could be representing:
- Batman & Robins, in which case Steph is missing.
- Bruce & his kids (adopted or otherwise), in which case Cass is missing.
- Batfam, in which case most of the Batman cast is missing.
- People who act like family (siblings & parent, excluding lovers), in which case Alfred and maybe Cass are missing (I'd argue that Cass has a complicated relationship with the rest of the batkids and her place in the family is not as clear cut as some of the others, but that's a personal interpretation. Steph and Damian also often act like siblings and she's close to Tim but does not have a familial relationship with the others).

Again, all of this has shit all to do with "Bruce also loved Cass more than Jason or Damian".

(Anonymous) 2014-02-15 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
OP, here.

Yeah I realize the last bit was unnecessarily dickish. My bad. I made the secret when I was feeling especially bitter. I just hate all the emphasis in Batfamily fandom of Bruce's love for Jason and Damian, while completely ignoring that he loved Babs and Cass too, and had a very close relationship with Cass.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-15 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
For me it's that Bruce is hugely affected by Jason in a way that Cass, Tim & Damian cannot match. Jason's death was a pivot moment for Batman and the only similar one was his own "death".

I'm not sure how much Bruce loves Damian, anyway, rather than feel very responsible for him, and I'm not sure most comic writers do either. I mean, Damian's true mentor is Dick. Bruce can barely get through to him and barely tries to understand him most of the time.

Anyway, what Cass stories do you recommend? I've only seen bits and pieces and the only TPB I actually bought was "Destruction's Daughter" which is a huge mess and was sort of taken over by the crisis leadup...

(Anonymous) 2014-02-15 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
That's true about Jason. Like I said, shitty mood when I made the secret. But I do think Bruce was able to understand, trust, and get along with Cass a lot more than he was able to do with Jay or Damian.

I'd basically recommend the Batgirl series that featured her.