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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-15 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2601 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-02-15 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Definitely agree. It makes me kind of sad when people go on about how terrible comic females are because even though their intentions are good, they're basically devaluing a bunch of female characters I really love and respect. It's usually because of something stupid too, like a shitty writing or art decision years ago that doesn't affect subsequent portrayals of the character.

I'm not suggesting that sexism in comics isn't a problem, but you have to acknowledge the good as well as the bad, and there's waaaaaaay more good than a lot of people seem to think.

As a side note, the thing I hate most is when people go on about how terrible it is how so many female characters are only female version of a male character, like Batgirl or She-Hulk, regardless of how different they are in substance from their male counterpart or what they've done entirely on their own merits. Their connection to a male character is usually only significant as part of their origin story, and sometimes not even then. Like, Steph becoming Batgirl had absolutely nothing to do with Bruce, she did it because Cass asked her to (which was a weird situation to begin with but let's not go in to that).

It would definitely be cool if there were more original female superheroes with no connection to existing male ones (although there are already shitloads, eg. almost every female X-Man), but as a general rule new superheroes don't sell very well.
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(Anonymous) 2014-02-16 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Argh yeah I can relate to that. I have a picture of Power Girl on my wall (drawn by Amanda Conner) and almost everyone who sees it can't stop going on about how disgusting it is because of the size of her breasts.

"How could you put up a picture like that? It's just fap fodder for creepy neckbeards"
"Actually I got it because I thought she looked powerful and badass, and the colours are nice"
"But her boobs!"

I don't doubt that Power Girl originally had larger than average breasts because of some skeevy artist being all "hurr, tittays", but later on they just sort of became a part of her appearance, like blonde hair. She doesn't care, Amanda Conner didn't care, big breasts don't stop her from being a good character. I don't see why it's such an insurmountable problem.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-02-16 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
It can be a fine line to walk to acknowledge the problems in the industry without ignoring the examples of people doing it right. I've had the same issues with discussions about disabled characters before. Sometimes people overstate the problem and I feel like babbling at them about the awesome characters that they're passing over to make their point.