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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-19 06:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #2605 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2605 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Slenderman]


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[Saints Row 3]


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[Doctor Who]


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[Welcome to Night Vale, My Mad Fat Diary]


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[The Middle]


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[Steven Universe]


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[Kyuhyun and Seohyun]


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[Disney]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[Thor: Dark World]


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[The Avengers/Clark Gregg]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[Hannibal]


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[Fate/Stay Night]















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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-20 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Hi, I'm overweight, obese even, but I"m healthier than most of my slender friends. So...there goes that theory!

(Anonymous) 2014-02-20 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
how do you figure you're healthier than your slender friends?
being obese is really, REALLY unhealthy. unless your slender friends all have terminal illnesses or something, i really don't see the logic in that statement. and i've seen it used so many times before. it's like the go-to defensive statement or something.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-20 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

How are you measuring "health"? If you're using rubrics like, "can walk up X flights of stairs or jog Y distance without getting winded," "have good cholesterol/blood pressure numbers," or "experience fewer health-related wellness complaints," then yes, an obese person can be healthier than a slender person.

If you're measuring health in terms of, "isn't fat," then no, AYRT's statement doesn't make sense. But that's a stupid definition.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-20 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Being underweight is actually a lot less healthy than being overweight. Ideally you wouldn't be either one of those, but if people are so concerned about health they should probably be helping some others to gain weight.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-20 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yo!

I'm a fattie-fat-fat with a great blood pressure, great cholesterol levels, excellent heart-health, the works! And I have two completely different slender friends that struggle with those health issues (one, who runs marathons and would be considered very healthy based on appearance, just suffered a heart attack not two months ago!). I am, objectively, healthier, despite my size. It happens! You really need to do some actual research into different body types and how they work, and stop equating "fat" with "unhealthy". It's really not that simple!

(Anonymous) 2014-02-20 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
here's the thing, though. you can be temporarily healthy while being fat, but eventually it will take its toll on your health. bodies are not designed to be overweight for long periods of time and eventually it will wear on your joints, your heart, etc. i've seen it happen. two of my family members have wrecked their knees just by being fat.

it isn't healthy over the long term, period.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-20 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
Y'all heard Dr. Anon. They know what they're talking about. They went to Anon Doctor School and got a BS in BS.

but eventually it will take its toll on your health.

Eventually life takes its toll on your health.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, anon is right. If you don't believe that being seriously overweight is terrible for your joints then I don't know what to tell you. That's not BS, there are facts to back it up.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-02-20 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
If her slender friends smoke, drink a ton of alcohol, habitually eat horrible foods (which can harm you even if you're blessed with a good metabolism), have bad genes, practice difficult sports, or other health issues that have nothing to do with weight, and anon doesn't, then it's entirely possible for them to be more unhealthy than anon is. Because there are, contrary to current hysteria, many more dangers for the human body than being fat.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-20 10:51 am (UTC)(link)
According to BMI, even when I'm a healthy weight, I will now be "overweight". Did you know that several years ago, they randomly changed what a "healthy" BMI is?

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9806/17/weight.guidelines/

That's part of how this whole "epidemic" thing started.

BMI also doesn't take into consideration muscle-to-fat ratio. Many very fit people are "overweight" because they have muscles. Heck, did you know Arnold Schwartzenegger was "obese" when he won his titles?

I'm not saying any of this is necessarily true for the person you're replying to, but "being obese" isn't that clear cut. I'm working on becoming a healthier weight, but I know people half my size who have heart problems, high cholesterol, diabetes, and a host of other problems. I don't have any of those, even though I'm currently in the "super obese" category despite a 50lbs. weight loss so far.

Just to give a little perspective.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-02-20 11:57 am (UTC)(link)
BMI is kinda bullshit anyway. I'm really dense, so if I'm at a healthy weight for me, BMI will still tell me I'm overweight.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-20 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, body fat % is a much better metric for the very reasons you've given, and a lot of people have no idea. Back when I first decided that I needed/wanted to get healthier, I had a BMI of 20, which is on the low end of the "healthy weight" range. My body fat, however, was at 30%! I was skinny, but I was still at risk for a whole host of issues, some of which were starting to negatively impact my quality of life.

Over the past couple of years, I've managed to drop my body fat to 20%. I feel so much better and my numbers (cholesterol, glucose, blood pressure, etc) are fantastic, but according to my BMI, I'm now slightly overweight! Bullllshiiiiit.