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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-19 06:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #2605 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2605 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Slenderman]


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[Saints Row 3]


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[Doctor Who]


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[Welcome to Night Vale, My Mad Fat Diary]


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[The Middle]


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[Steven Universe]


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[Kyuhyun and Seohyun]


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[Disney]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[Thor: Dark World]


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[The Avengers/Clark Gregg]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[Hannibal]


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[Fate/Stay Night]















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 036 secrets from Secret Submission Post #372.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Non-fandom confessions gooooo

(Anonymous) 2014-02-20 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't equal gender identity, but it's a part of gender presentation, which is ideally a reflection of one's identity.

Re: Non-fandom confessions gooooo

(Anonymous) 2014-02-20 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, but when people say "I'm gender-fluid/genderqueer because I have a beard and wear a skirt." I don't really know what to take from that.

Re: Non-fandom confessions gooooo

(Anonymous) 2014-02-20 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
DA

This is true. But something that I worry about is that, if we start taking the simple act of stepping outside of culturally- and socially-defined gender boundaries as an indication that a person is genderfluid or of the opposite gender, then we might stop questioning and dismantling those boundaries.

Gender norms and roles don't, for the most part, correspond to anything real. For a long time, that's how we were approaching them: as constructs to be ripped into. Masculinity and femininity are moving targets; they present differently across time and place. This means that the coding of traits and behaviors and clothing and etc as masculine or feminine is wrong and part of an oppressive structure that elevates one group above the other.

Now, it seems as if masculinity and femininity are being treated as static, as if the coding is correct, as if there's nothing wrong with the categories themselves but only with the fact that it isn't acceptable to slide between them.

I don't feel like I'm expressing this very well at all, but what I'm trying to get at is that I think that a lot of people, by saying things like "I am genderfluid because I wear a skirt and heels," have started reinforcing gender norms and roles instead of challenging them.

Re: Non-fandom confessions gooooo

(Anonymous) 2014-02-20 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
by saying things like "I am genderfluid because I wear a skirt and heels," have started reinforcing gender norms and roles instead of challenging them.

New Anon to the thread.

I think about this a lot. Among my trans friends it's actually not that way, but in a lot of online discussions and fic featuring trans characters this happens a lot. Like male character headcanon as trans = fic about them going out with girl friends and learning how to shop and put on make up and shave their legs. Like that's the epitome of being female. And I understand why someone would want to explore that avenue of gender, I feel like all these discussions and fic etc are just reinforcing gender stereotypes and norms and more contributing to a problem than really exploring any issues like they might think they're doing.

/ramble