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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-20 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2606 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2606 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
If it's for a small fandom they probably knew it was platonic but thought "I really want this ship so I'll take what I can get." So it's more them than you. As for not wanting people to get off to what you write or have the wrong interpretation, you just have to accept that you can't control people.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
They're probably interested in family dynamics. Maybe. Possibly.

Yeah

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
This is what I was thinking. I have a friend who has one or two incest pairings because it helps her work through non-sexual issues with one of her siblings. Don't feel bad, OP.
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2014-02-21 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe they like innocent mother/son dynamics as well as incest, kind of like how people can like friend gen as well as slash?
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[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-02-21 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
This exactly. I have a couple of pairings I love to read friendship fic for as well as straight out kinky porn. I have no trouble keeping the two types of fic separate in my mind.

OP: you're probably overthinking it. In any case, stop checking other people's bookmarks if it's going to bother you so much.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-02-21 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I sort of get it. I always just get slightly creeped out of minors fid their way to my adult stuff (which they do).

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
This is the flip side of the death of the author. You cannot -- ever -- control what people make of a text once it's outside your head and in the world. Hell, if authors could do that, there would BE no fanfic.

Which does, alas, mean you're going to get creeped out occasionally.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe you shouldn't analyze it too much. My drawings have been favorited by inflation fetishists, furries, and people fond of men breastfeeding, and I'm certain that there's nothing like that in my pics.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
As someone with a deviantart account solely for weight gain, I have favorited completely normal artworks...because I couldn't remember the password to my 'normal' account and was too lazy to reset it. So. Yeah. (I mostly just pray the artists of those pictures don't get curious and click my account to see what else I'm favoriting, because I don't want them to get the wrong idea about why I liked it...)
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[personal profile] queerwolf 2014-02-21 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
That background pic is adorable, OP.

I wouldn't read too much into it. People can like multiple kinds of relationships in their fic.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2014-02-21 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Never thought about authors making their way to my bookmarks, and coming up with horrific conclusions as to why I liked one of their things, because there must be some common thread between everything.

I like your paranoia.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not a writer but as an artist I'll totally take a look at the pages of people who've liked my work. I want to see what we have in common and who my work is reaching.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2014-02-21 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
I get you. But that's a bit, a lot actually, different than making criminal profiles of serial bookmarkers.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
...you seem to be under the impression that I saw they faved some incest fics and drew conclusions from there. This was FFN, not ao3, and their entire typical FFN-length was about their love for incest and smut. Which at first just made me curious about what they could've seen in my fic - my writing doesn't get much attention so I'm pretty much always curious about why people fave it - but then I just had a moment where it was like "Wait a minute, what if -" and it squicked me out a little bit. I'm not even judging them, just... Kinda bothered. Though I do understand it's a risk you sign up for when you put you're writing out there.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2014-02-21 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
You did consider that your fic was just enjoyable, and not being curated for an incest gallery, right? You do sound like cooler, if more resigned, type of writer that just found out that there is a fandom writing about all the subtext they swore they never put in in :)

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
A long time ago, I was in a fandom in which one of my friends, an extremely talented writer, had recently created a surge in popularity for a mother/son pairing with one of her fics. When I wrote about them in a gen fic later on, many of her readers came around to read my story as well. I have to admit some part of me was... vaguely uncomfortable.

I'd read your fic, OP. Mothers and sons intrigue me, and not in the Oedipal way.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
There's a distinct possibility that that's not why they were interested. I myself really like incest in some contexts, but not in others.

Either way, I wouldn't get too concerned. Even if this person did enjoy the fic for the incest possibilities, just remember: to a man with a hammer, everything is a nail. You might have absolutely nothing untoward in your fic at all and someone who was looking for a certain thing would still find it.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I doubt it was anything in your writing. The same way people can look at a story and make a ship of two characters who have no romantics interactions, they probably just saw what they wanted too in your fic.
And it's possible they like the platonic version just as much as anything else.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Remember that they and others like them are seeing it in the equally innocent canon source(s) as well, so it's not anything you're doing wrong. (Unless you work for Folgers.)
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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2014-02-21 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
People interpret things you write differently than you meant them to. It happens. Even if you explicitly say "This is how I mean for this story to be interpreted", people will think what they want. Which can be upsetting, but thinking about things in your own way...that's kinda the whole point of fandom.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
Here to second what everybody else said about death of the author and how everyone's gonna read things their way no matter how they're actually written. But also, let me speak up for the perverts for a sec just to say - don't panic, hombre. Just because a person likes some incest ships, that doesn't mean they can't read a gen story about family and take it completely at face-value.

(This is gonna become A Story About Me, but well I can't really speak for anyone else, can I.) First of all, I have read and enjoyed some incest fics in the past, but I neeeevvvvveeeerrrrrrr ship cross-generational pairings because there is an inherent power imbalance that I personally just cannot get over; and I know for a FACT that it is not just me. So just because your reader may like some sibling ships, doesn't mean they're down for parent/child. Secondly....okay, let's say maybe they are. Doesn't mean they're ALWAYS feelin' it! There are some sibling ships I like, but yet more sibling ships I do not (and I mean some incredibly popular ones that a ton of people write a TON of fic for, like the Winchesters, or the Tams. They ONLY give me family feelings, and yeah, I've even read and enjoyed some gen stuff about em written specifically to give one the family feels). Every dynamic is different!

For real, don't let somebody's past likes let you believe that's all they're looking for, all of the time. Gen is more popular than most people think! Even if incest is a kink of someone's, that's not necessarily ALL they wanna read.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
And this is exactly why I keep my favorites/bookmarks/whatever they call it lists private.

Because, tbh, people looking at what I've favorited always just creeps me out.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-22 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes if I really ship something and the fandom is small enough, I'll absolutely take what I can get. Even if they also ship the two in a romantic way, they might also not mind seeing them in a platonic way. Sometimes people just like the dynamic, no matter what.

It may be that they read it as innocent

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Keep in mind, in an incest fetish, the person may be thinking of themselves as a child. The experience of being cared for and loved in that specific way we love helpless children. You may have written such a realistic loving relationship that they felt it strike a chord, an actually innocent needy chord in that person.

In other words, it is possible that it is not that your fic contains something dark that attracted dark interests, its the light. But never mind this person who you don't know and the incest fetish that has nothing to do with you. Someone liking your work or fitting it into their fantasy lives can have very little to do with you.

It's like, suppose you had a daughter, and that daughter was wonderful, wise, silly, oafish, clumsy, spirited, so fascinating to you as a person that you felt you had to pick her pictures up on the Internet to share her fabulousness with the world. Well, somebody somewhere is going to find her pictures and interact with that image in their heads in some way that has nothing to do with her. They may write to say that is their stolen daughter and you are a thief, they may write a respectful proposal to marry their infant son in 10 years, they may request pics without panties...how much does that have to do with you, really? or her? or your intent?

I know its standard behavior when someone is assaulted or disturbed to wonder what signals they have been giving out that attracted someone to do this, but honestly, we have all had these experiences, and attracting unsavory attention is rarely the target's doing in any objective sense.