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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-23 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2609 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2609 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Then that's what I'm reading next. Haven't even heard about it but having read some of the other ones without being impressed I will give this a shoot
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2014-02-24 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, really? Such a childhood staple....
If you like it, there is also Little Men and Jo's Boys.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-02-23 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always thought 'Little Women' was a nauseating piece of tripe. I especially hate Jo.

Gone with the Wind, on the other hand, is brilliant. If Scarlett O'Hara had fought in the Civil War the Yankees would have lost.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
If Scarlett O'Hara had fought in the Civil War the Yankees would have lost.

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Bitch, please.

/Honest Abe

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
NGL, she is kind of a role model for me. I love that she's good at math, starts her own very successful business and gives zero fucks about getting along. Also love her eventual friendship with Melanie (and that both Melanie and Ashley see her for who she really ois) and I love her sense of obligation toward her family and everyone in her life who's weaker than she is. She may not like them much but she'll do the right thing.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I shipped Jo/Laurie, too, man. It was one of my first ships. (That and Neil/Todd from Dead Poets Society. Shipped that like FedEx, as the saying goes.)

Really?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, I really liked the book, but I kind of wish there hadn't been any romantic feelings between Jo and Laurie at all (or anything with Amy). Or are you just talking about Jo and Professor Bhaer and Meg and Mr. Brooke?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
There are so many things wrong with this secret I don't know where to start. Romance novels? Really? (yeah okay Gone with the Wind MAYBE).

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
A main aspect of the plot of those novels is a love story between the two main characters, many of them have a happy ending. They have a lot of interesting extra stuff, but at their core, they meet the criteria for romance novels.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Persuasion is Jane Austen's only actual romance novel. The others are meant as critiques of society and personal foibles. Persuasion is a straight forward romance.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
JAURIE 4EVAH, BAYBEE!

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
GWTW is more a dysfunctional romance novel, if you're set on classifying it as a romance novel.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2014-02-23 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you, OP. And I feel like I'm one of the only people who actually disliked Jo/Laurie and was glad they didn't end up together. Which is weird because friendship romances are usually my thing, but I felt he would have held her back. I loved who she ended up with. He was a good match for her, I felt.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Winona Ryder movie Bhaer was someone I could've seen her with. The rest, bleh.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always hated the Jo/Bhaer thing. Thinking about it, Little Women might be the root of my dislike for younger woman/older man pairings.

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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-02-23 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I prefer Jo and the Professor but his attitude toward her is still too fatherly for my comfort, not just because of the age thing, I'm fine with that, but the way he lectures her about her writing. But I can't stand the way Laurie tries to manipulate her.

Also, responding to the secret in general, my first thought: "Gone With the Wind" is romance?? I enjoy Scarlet and Rhett's relationship but I would not call that book a romance novel.

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2014-02-24 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
When i was a kid, i desperately wanted Jo/Laurie, but as i got older, i really liked Professor Bhaer and her together, and i really did love Amy and Laurie together. Meg and John, though, always kind of put my hackles up.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
My kid self still hasn't forgiven that book for destroying my ship though.

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[personal profile] silvereriena 2014-02-23 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I haven't read Little Women in a long time. All that comes to mind when I think of it is the beautiful movie soundtrack (the 90s one) and the whole ship wank that happened while the author was still alive. :D

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, I dunno. Laurie pretty much behaves like a dick when he finds out that Jo doesn't think of him as more than a friend. Meg's marriage with John is a little too... I don't know how to describe it... neatly slotted into traditional gender roles? I know the novel's a product of its times, but their romance has never appealed to me for that reason.

I also find Jo's relationship with Prof. Bhaer really weird. He's a conspicuous father figure, not just for his age but for the way he lectures her on the things he thinks she should be doing. There's a really moralistic tone to his approach and it all screams daddy issues.

But then, I find some of the other novels referenced to be weird/creepy/not my thing, too.
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[personal profile] gondremark 2014-02-24 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Little Women is a story about some characters and their lives. Some of the characters fall in love, and this is dealt with as a thing that they do or that happens to them; it's done tenderly and realistically, and it's well written and the story is neatly constructed, so we care.

The other books listed are just "OMG so-and-so is so dashing, yay romance" and there's no verisimilitude, we don't get to see the characters as people. And so there's nothing about the falling in love to make us really care, and the romance, which was supposed to be the whole point of the book, falls flat.

P. S. When I say "is" I mean "as I see it" and when I say "we" I mean "I".
P. P. S. I haven't read Gone With the Wind; everything I said above refers to the Austen and Bronte tripe (which I've read sections of but couldn't stomach in its entirety). GWtW may or may not be brilliant, I don't know.
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[personal profile] rbhudson 2014-02-24 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
I wanted to be Jo, she got my dream happy ending <3

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm like this with all media. I tend to appreciate a romance more if there's something else going on around it, which is probably why I ship so much but rarely have an interest in canon romances.
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[personal profile] tenlittlebullets 2014-02-24 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
*cracks knuckles* Uh-oh, somebody called Jane Eyre a romance novel, I think we're gonna have to take this outside.

IT'S A BILDUNGSROMAN IT DOESN'T MAGICALLY TURN INTO A ROMANCE NOVEL JUST BECAUSE THE MAIN CHARACTER IS FEMALE AND ENDS UP GETTING SOME BOOTY SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY