[ SECRET POST #2609 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2609 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

...because that's one if the main events in the popular story the movie was based on. Their behaviour served as the catalyst for Lady's banishment.

[loracarol]

Huh, I am learning a lot today. I did not realize that that movie was based off of a short story.

I'm still not super clear on how we got to this point of the conversation, though? Because my claim was that Walt Disney didn't like cats, and thus movies made while he was alive tended to feature evil cats. While TL&TT is based on a short story (or a mix of a short story and some other things), that contained mean cats, that doesn't change the fact that Walt Disney chose to make that into a feature film, and there wasn't (as far as I can tell) any heroic cats in his movies until after his death.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. And so were Bambi, 101 Dalmatians, and a lot of the other early Disney films that weren't based on fairy tales.

[loracarol]

Cool. :D

[(Anonymous)]

101 Dalmatians was made during Walt Disney's life and he did have some input (was the producer, in fact), and it does feature a heroic cat. As others have said, Figaro is a good cat, and that was the second Disney movie ever made! There's also a number of shorts featuring him. Bagheera is a big cat, so maybe it doesn't count, but he's obviously good too.

[poisonivory]

Julius, the costar of the Alice shorts, which predate Mickey and even Oswald, was a cat. People have already mentioned Figaro in Pinocchio, but there's also Dinah in Alice in Wonderland (and I don't think the Cheshire Cat is necessarily a villain - he's chaotic neutral at worst), Ivan in the "Peter and the Wolf" segment of Make Mine Music, Tibbs in 101 Dalmatians, and Bagheera in The Jungle Book.

On the evil side, we have Pete, Lucifer, the Siamese Cats, and Shere Khan. So heroic cats actually outnumber evil ones up through Walt's death.

I mean, cats make great cartoon villains because they eat mice and mice make great underdogs, but they haven't actually been depicted as consistently evil as you're claiming.