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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-23 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2609 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2609 ⌋

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elephantinegrace: (Default)

Re: I get where you are coming from, but I have to disagree.

[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2014-02-24 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
I know what you mean when it comes to saying the wrong word. I reblogged a post and added a comment about how eating disorder posts are almost exclusively about starving or purging and weighing too little, and I said that overeating is a disorder and being morbidly obese also kills people, and I was promptly told to jump off a cliff (and 48 variations of that sentiment). I've gotten spammed with bloody fetuses after reblogging some pro-choice posts. And Tumblr's format makes it just about impossible to completely wipe a post (something I'm both grateful and regretful for). I don't disagree with you. I'm just sick of seeing people speak as if Tumblr is the worst thing that could've happened to fandom when it's basically my favorite site.
ketita: (Default)

Re: I get where you are coming from, but I have to disagree.

[personal profile] ketita 2014-02-24 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
tbh, I think the fact that you really like and enjoy tumblr but people here like to deride it has something to do with your opinions... I mean, I get that. It would make me sad too if something I like was commonly being described as the scourge of fandom and whatnot. But I think that your reasoning behind why people like it is very faulty.

I'm one of the crowd who doesn't particularly like what tumblr has done to fandom, and it has nothing to do with the age but like said above, you can't really communicate. You can't edit a post and then everybody sees the edit - because your original post is already all over the place and will be forever more. Tumblr is mostly a bunch of people shouting into the void, and that lack of discussion also doesn't foster people developing actual analytical skills or the ability to HAVE discussions. On LJ, because there's a stronger sense of community, there is the possibility of developing a community-specific culture where new members can learn accepted ways of interaction and behavior within the context of whatever given community, and young people can also be (sometimes!) positively influenced by the older generation of fans, because voices are heard. Whereas on tumblr nobody has to learn anything or adapt or become part of a real community at all, because the only borders of the tumblr community are tumblr itself.

So I guess I feel like it's not fair to blame misogyny for what's really a format and generational problem, at the end of the day.
elephantinegrace: (Default)

Re: I get where you are coming from, but I have to disagree.

[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2014-02-24 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
That's fair. I'm not saying that the only reason people hate Tumblr is because of sexism or ageism, but the sheer magnitude of it is very telling, to the point where I've started avoiding people who openly deride the site, especially the people who disparage it for the reasons I made an account in the first place.

I'm just going to contradict one thing. The experience I had with LJ (which was my only other fandom site, so it's my only basis of comparison) was one of several different communities within the same fandom, which made me get bored easily because it was the same thing over and over whereas Tumblr has the tag tracking system and no barriers between different interests of fandom, so I basically have to blacklist like crazy and even then I see a lot of things I don't give two cents about.

I think I'm just defending it so hard because I don't see...well, anyone else doing that, really.
nyxelestia: Rose Icon (Default)

Re: I get where you are coming from, but I have to disagree.

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-02-24 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
I am sorry to hear about all that, and I can get how that kind of resentment would build up over time.

And honestly? I like Tumblr, too. I just hate that it's now the primary fandom platform, and in some places the only - or as good as the only - fandom platform. The kind of interactivity I used to easily get in most or all of my fandom spaces, I now find predominantly here - most journalsite based communities are dying or dead, and with no viable replacement (which I don't count Tumblr as one, as it doesn't enable anywhere near the same level of interaction as journal sites, forums, etc.)

I'm not old, but I have spent almost half my life - over the last decade - in fandom, and the type of fandom I grew up on is quickly evaporating, and much of that is due to Tumblr...and I dread the possibility that when fandom moves on from Tumblr to something else, the stuff I loved about fandom will die out completely and never come back. :( Fandom will still be around, but not the kind of fandom I want.

So yeah, I resent its popularity much more than I resent the site itself, and this is why.

(I also hate the growth of SJWs, but that's as much correlation as causation in this particular context.)
elephantinegrace: (Default)

Re: I get where you are coming from, but I have to disagree.

[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2014-02-24 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, I get where you're coming from. I mean, that post was as much a rant as it was an attempt to have a reasonable discussion. It is easier for me, someone who migrated from FF.Net to Twitter to Tumblr, to get used to fandom being like that. I do admit, I spoke out of anger because I'd just had this discussion yesterday and most of today, so I didn't try to see your side or anyone else's. My brain-mouth (or this case, hand) filter is flimsy at best, so I'll put my foot in my mouth a lot over complete misunderstandings.

And if you find me on any other site, feel free to strike up a chat.

Re: I get where you are coming from, but I have to disagree.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
migrated from FF.Net to Twitter to Tumblr

That explains so much.
nyxelestia: Rose Icon (Default)

Re: I get where you are coming from, but I have to disagree.

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-02-24 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm confused as to how fandom works on Twitter. It's 140 characters for post, how...what...?!
nyxelestia: Rose Icon (Default)

Re: I get where you are coming from, but I have to disagree.

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-02-24 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Well seeing as most Dragons of Berk fic is on FFN, I guess I'm getting back into it. Same name on there? :)