[ SECRET POST #2611 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2611 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Actually, one of my friends and I

[sarillia]

There are probably cases where people blame prejudice when the problem is lack of talent but that doesn't mean that prejudice is never a problem.

Re: Actually, one of my friends and I

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for saying this. I cringe whenever anyone does that because it's just so... dumb and predictable. It's like when the topic of rape comes up and someone always pipes up and goes "Buuuuuuuut what about the women who lie about being raped just to get revenge on an innocent guy???"

Re: Actually, one of my friends and I

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't mean prejudice is never a problem, but it also doesn't mean prejudice is never not a problem. Sometimes (as, it seems, in this case) people in minority groups just genuinely suck at what they do, just like sometimes people in majority groups genuinely suck at what they do. Sucking at what one does is non-gender/race/sexuality-specific.

Re: Actually, one of my friends and I

[sarillia]

This is true but for all the internet's complaints of SJWs, there are a lot more people who refuse to admit that prejudice is still a problem than there are people who refuse to admit that they just suck and blame it on oppression. You may have come across more of the latter and if that's true than I can see why you would think it's important to point this out, but in my experience most people agree with you.

Re: Actually, one of my friends and I

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, it is. But when the predominant discussion in a subject like female comedians is how much they suck and there's a very real issue of discrimination going on, bringing up that one lesbian comedian you heard about from a friend who cried wolf is a bit like interrupting a serious discussion about racial discrimination and going, "But but but my friend knew this one black guy who was really awful!"

If you don't realize how dodgy that sounds for you to bring it up, then I suppose there's not much help for you, but I will clarify-- it sounds like you're implying that all the abuses that happen are okay because a tiny fraction of a percentage of the cases aren't abuse. Not only does that argument NOT make any sense (Ex: Driving and drinking isn't a problem because not every drunk driver kills someone!) it makes people wonder why you're bringing it up... and none of the reasons flatter you.

Re: Actually, one of my friends and I

[(Anonymous)]

Original commenter: Yeah, I understand why that sounds kinda offensive :/ Sorry about that. I wasn't trying to imply that the reason that women have so much trouble in comedy is because they suck or some of them suck.

I was trying to talk about how representation can be kinda bad when it relies more on reminding the audience how they are 'different' from everyone else than on other areas of substance that it can get a bit 'token-y'
(Not that that justifies any prejudice in comedy or anywhere else)

I was trying to add to the discussion with something that I thought would contribute something, but I was wrong. Sorry.
(I'm a woman btw)