[ SECRET POST #2614 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2614 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Americans]


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04. http://oi58.tinypic.com/2a5hg1g.jpg
[underage nudity, fanart stuff, harry potter]


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05. http://abload.de/img/blue1iqs99.png
[porny, liveaction]


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[underage nudity, lolicon stuff]


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08. [SPOILERS for Thor: The Dark World]



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09. [SPOILERS for True Blood]



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10. [SPOILERS for Kill la Kill]



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11. [SPOILERS for Sons of Anarchy]



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12. [SPOILERS for the Lego Movie]



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13. [WARNING for incest]

[How I Live Now]


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14. [WARNING for suicide]

[Robert E. Howard]

















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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I agree 1000000%, OP.

In fact Stephen King made a snide remark about Howard's suicide in his book On Writing.

And thank you for this secret, OP. I'm glad I'm not the only one appalled by this attitude towards Robert E. Howard.

[(Anonymous)]

In fact Stephen King made a snide remark about Howard's suicide in his book On Writing.

He did? Goddamn it.

And you're welcome.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't have the book with me right now, but King said something to the effect that Howard couldn't live without his mother, and the context was very dismissive and condescending, almost like a joke after some passages of disparaging Howard. But, then, King was full of himself in On Writing.

:)

[insanenoodlyguy]

But... it's kinda true? That is why he killed himself in part.

[(Anonymous)]

If it was the passage that Abrasax posted it really doesn't sound like it was dismissive or condescending.

[abrasax]

"The only writer who really got away with this sort of stuff was Robert E. Howard, a peculiar genius who lived and died in rural Texas ( Howard committed suicide as his mother lay comatose and terminally ill, apparently unable to face life without her). Howard overcame the limitations of his puerile material by the force and fury of his writing and by his imagination, which was powerful beyond his hero Conan's wildest dreams of power. In his best work, Howard's writing seems so highly charged with energy that it nearly gives off sparks. Stories such as "The People of the Black Circle" glow with the fierce and eldritch light of his frenzied intensity. At his best, Howard was the Thomas Wolfe of fantasy, and most of his Conan tales seem to almost fall over themselves in their need to get out. Yet his other work was either unremarkable or just abysmal... The word will hurt and anger his legion of fans, but I don't believe any other word fits. Robert Bloch, one of Howard's contemporaries, suggested in his first letter to Weird Tales that even Conan wasn't that much shakes. Bloch's idea was that Conan should be banished to the outer darkness where he could use his sword to cut out paper dolls. Needless to say, this suggestion did not go over well with the marching hordes of Conan fans; they probably would have lynched poor Bob Bloch on the spot, had they caught up with him back there in Milwaukee." ~ Stephen King, Danse Macabre, p. 204

[(Anonymous)]

na

Howard committed suicide as his mother lay comatose and terminally ill, apparently unable to face life without her

Is this the comment that was supposed to be snide? I don't really get that impression. It just seems like a neutral statement as to why he likely took his life

[abrasax]

yeah, i don't get it either. the little research i've done shows me king liked his conan work a lot. maybe if they can provide us with the snark so we can judge?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

If you squint your eyes and look *REALLY* hard it, it's possible to see how it can be taken as snide if someone saw it out of context.

But somehow, I strongly suspect that isn't what they're referring to.

[(Anonymous)]

People see what they want to see. And some people can't handle anyone criticizing a person who has any kind of mental illness.

Some people need to get their shit together and grow up.

[(Anonymous)]

When Howard was good, he was very very good. King could stand a little of that when his writing is lackluster, which it can be at times.

[brandiweed.livejournal.com]

Hm, that parenthetical aside doesn't seem snide to me. If anything, King's sarcasm was dedicated to the kind of "thud and blunder" stuff that Howard, alas, spawned. From the previous paragraphs in that passage of Danse Macabre (p. 323 in my paperback edition):

"... [I] make the following wild statement: all fantasy fiction is essentially about the concept of power; great fantasy fiction is about people who find it at great cost or lose it tragically; mediocre fantasy fiction is about people who have it and never lose it but simply wield it. Mediocre fantasy fiction generally appeals to people who feel a decided shortage of power in their own lives and obtain a vicarious shot of it by reading stories of strong-thewed barbarians whose extraordinary prowess at fighting is only excelled by their extraordinary prowess at fucking; in these stories we are apt to encounter a seven-foot-tall hero fighting his way up the alabaster stairs of some ruined temple, a flashing sword in one hand and a scantily clad beauty lolling over his free arm.

"This sort of fiction, commonly called 'sword and sorcery' by its fans, is not fantasy at its lowest, but it still has a pretty tacky feel; mostly it's The Hardy Boys dressed up in animal skins and rated R (and with cover art by Jeff Jones, as likely as not). ..."

(Also, I realize I'd never seen a picture of old "Two-Gun Bob" before, and for one brief moment I was wondering why someone said Al Capone had committed suicide.)

[kamino_neko]

(Also, I realize I'd never seen a picture of old "Two-Gun Bob" before, and for one brief moment I was wondering why someone said Al Capone had committed suicide.)

Hah, me too. The resemblance really is startling.

[(Anonymous)]

for one brief moment I was wondering why someone said Al Capone had committed suicide

Oh thank god it was't just me.

[hiyami]

Re. Al Capone : that's four of us then...

[(Anonymous)]

Fifthing the Al Capone thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for digging up the specific reference! (So nice when we can be talking about actual source material, not third-hand recollections.)

And yeah, that doesn't sound snide to me at all. Just a straightforward mention of what King's heard about the suicide.