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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-28 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2614 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2614 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[How I Live Now]


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(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
I can agree with this. The specific percentage isn't so important to me as the attitude that an accused rapist automatically equals an actual rapist and should be treated as such, because, um, innocent until proven guilty? Kind of an important legal concept that we'd better work to protect if we want it to apply to us whenever a woman is accused of anything.

An accusation of rape should always be taken seriously and never dismissed out of hand, but that isn't the same thing as saying it should be automatically believed without giving the accused a chance to defend themselves against the charges.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-03-01 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
The innocent until proven guilty thing is a bit complicated in the case of rape. Usually most people are assumed guilty in the court of public opinion, but people are often much more skeptical of the victims in rape cases than with other crimes. So some people have tried to encourage a more sympathetic attitude toward rape victims by saying that we should assume that they're telling the truth. Based on what I've seen, a rape accusation isn't as damaging to a reputation as people think most of the time. So I'm inclined to think that most people don't have much to gain by falsely accusing someone. Doesn't mean I would convict someone without evidence but I'm not going to use "innocent until proven guilty" as a reason to badger someone who says they were raped either.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Badger, no. I draw a distinction between reserving judgement until all the facts have been presented and weighed, and assuming the accuser is lying.

I'm sorry to say that I have no trouble believing that some people would accuse a wealthy person of rape in the hope of getting paid off to make the problem go away. Mainly because at this point I can believe almost any sick scheme people (not singling out women here, mind you, just human beings generally) might come up with to get rich quick at someone else's expense. But I'd never just assume that was what was going on, I merely wouldn't discount the possibility.

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Mohammad Asif: “I keep thinking, ‘I just dropped her off, she was just a normal passenger, why has she done that?” -accused by said passenger of raping her at knifepoint - would be in jail except was exonerated by voice recording app on hsi phone. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10160029/Cab-driver-falsely-accused-of-rape-saved-by-his-phone-app.html

Soner Yasa: four drunk women reported to police that he had sexually assaulted them as a ploy to refuse to pay a $13 cab fare- Once again he’d be in jail if not for video surveillance in his cab. Over $13 http://angiemedia.com/2012/07/05/taxi-cab-driver-falsely-accused-of-sexual-assault-as-ploy-to-avert-13-cab-fare/

Copperfield, 53, heralded Carroll’s arrest as proof that the woman was a liar and a gold-digger, interested only in extorting money from Copperfield and cashing in on her allegations. In a statement prepared after consulting with their client, Copperfield attorneys Patty Eakes and Angelo Calfo on Tuesday said Carroll “admitted to lying to police about the rape because she had to. Her lies were caught on tape, so she plea-bargained her way out of a jail sentence. “Her guilty plea shows that her claim that she was blacked out was nothing more than another Lacey Carroll hoax,” they said. “Now she’s a convicted liar; she’s a disgrace to women who have been truly victimized.” (http://www.davidcopperfieldsetstherecordstraight.com/)
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Re: AYRT

[personal profile] sarillia 2014-03-01 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds reasonable to me.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
"a rape accusation isn't as damaging to a reputation as people think most of the time"

'Bullied to death' for daring to stand up to drug dealers: Schoolboy, 16, died after he was falsely accused of raping a girl by yobs who terrorised his neighbourhood(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2517975/Schoolboy-16-killed-falsely-accused-tying-girl-tree-raping-her.html)

Brian Banks, Jailed On False Rape Charge, Sees Dream Come True As Atlanta Falcons Sign Him(http://www.laweekly.com/informer/2013/04/03/brian-banks-jailed-on-false-rape-charge-sees-dream-come-true-as-atlanta-falcons-sign-him)

GREELEY — A former University of Northern Colorado student who was banned from campus because of a false accusation of rape is now suing his accuser.(http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_11973765)

Virginia Woman Falsely Accuses Man Of Rape And Sends Him Away For Four Years Before Recanting … Given Just 60 Days In Jail To Be Served On Weekends(http://jonathanturley.org/2013/08/20/virginia-woman-falsely-accuses-man-of-rape-and-sends-him-away-for-four-years-before-recanting-given-just-60-days-in-jail-to-be-served-on-weekends/)

A Wymore man wrongfully accused of sexual assault is asking for a jury trial to assess damages done by Gage County and several sheriff’s deputies.(http://www.cotwa.info/2013/01/wymore-man-sues-after-false-rape.html)

"In 1989, Gary Dotson became the United States’ first innocent prisoner to be exonerated through DNA evidence. Dotson had already served 10 years of a 25-50 year sentence for aggravated kidnapping and rape. Although his accuser recanted her story in 1985 and said she made it up to cover a sexual encounter with her boyfriend, a judge refused to order a new trial, saying that the complainant’s original testimony was more convincing than her recantation. In 1988, Dotson’s defense attorney conducted previously unavailable DNA tests, which ultimately proved his innocence. An innocent man served 10 years for a crime he didn’t commit, and which even his accuser admitted never even happened."
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-03-01 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
I did modify that statement to say that it was based on what I've seen, as in the cases of people I know.

I would never say that no one has ever had their life ruined by it.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Perhaps a good way to balance the need to presume the innocence of the accused and avoid putting the victim on trial is to give the alleged-victim the benefit of the doubt that the rape took place, but retain the presumption of innocence that the accused was the one who did it? Just as sort of a general guideline that may not be applicable to all cases. Because due process is important and should be preserved, but I think we agree that the way rape victims are treated both by the justice system and in the court of public opinion is deplorable. idk, just tossing out ideas.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-03-01 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
That's how I tend to think of it. As I said before, I know that people really are falsely accused sometimes and I would never say otherwise, but the way rape victims are treated by the general public is disgusting.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-03-01 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
Perhaps a good way to balance the need to presume the innocence of the accused and avoid putting the victim on trial is to give the alleged-victim the benefit of the doubt that the rape took place, but retain the presumption of innocence that the accused was the one who did it?

Yep. That's what I try to do.