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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-02 03:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2616 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2616 ⌋

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Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

(Anonymous) 2014-03-03 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Probably because people were using ykinmk to shrug off blame when their attitude actually hurt people. There are places where you can talk about rape kink, but if you mess up and a rape survivor calls you out for being gross and fetishizing their trauma, you have to keep in mind that your right to wank is never above someone's right to dignity.

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

(Anonymous) 2014-03-03 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
but if you mess up and a rape survivor calls you out for being gross and fetishizing their trauma

The problem with that attitude is that someone's kink has nothing to do with that individual person or their trauma any more than a crime drama has anything to do with the relatives of a murder victim. It's not fetishizing their trauma because their trauma is an individual experience, whereas the kink is about the concept as a whole on a fictional level rather than a realistic one. The two things don't really have anything in common.

I mean, by that logic I should have been offended by the fact that House did an episode about the disease that killed one of my relatives. But I wasn't, because it was a fictional depiction and it wasn't about me or my experiences. People need to remember that.

da

(Anonymous) 2014-03-03 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
If you write a properly-warned-for rapefic, it has nothing to do with the individual person.

If you barge into their post/plurk/chat conversation/discussion thread/fic comments to blather on about how wet imaginary rape gets you - which is something people in fandom tend to do on an apallingly frequent basis - it does have to do with them, and you're going to have to deal with someone being pissed off or disgusted. ykinmk is only really applicable if you're in an appropriate space to talk about that kink.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2014-03-03 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
Another DA

I'll point out that some authors are uncomfortable when somebody puts a comment on their fic and goes on andon about how the author's story turned them on. Sometimes in graphic detail.

Gets even more awkward to say the least when a few of them admit to being underage.

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

(Anonymous) 2014-03-03 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
but if you mess up and a rape survivor calls you out for being gross and fetishizing their trauma

And what if the author of that rape fic IS a survivor of that same trauma, and putting a rape in a fictional, controllable context is part of how they deal with it?

Which is why authorial intent should never be assumed, as calling someone's therapy "gross" and "fetishizing" can also be very hurtful.

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

(Anonymous) 2014-03-03 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Then they can explain the situation if they want, but I'd err of the side of not turning trauma into someone else's wank material

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

(Anonymous) 2014-03-03 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol you're saying that we shouldn't write rape fic because it's fetishing someone's trauma?

Unless you're writing about someone's actual rape experience, with the intent of wanking off to it, that's bullshit. Rape fantasy is very different from real rape.

No, you probably shouldn't go off on your love of rapefic to a rape survivor. But you're allowed to like your kink, and anyone who shames you for liking it is an asshole, and grossly misunderstands the nature of fictional kinks.

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, but you don't get to be the arbiter of what other people can and can't write about. It's fine to not want to read it, but you don't get to say that no one else should want to read or write it either.