[ SECRET POST #2618 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2618 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Agree. And it's sad that in my fandom experience both genderswap is kind of hard to find. Mostly people seem to want to turn the 'bottom' in fics into girls and then have a lot of het sex. :(

[cloud_riven]

I'm more interested in scenarios where it's the typical top character who is swapped if it's gonna be just the one (f/f, either one). Not that I won't read it the other way, but if an author has a tendency to write weepy unrecognisable generukes, I doubt a swap will be all that different.

[(Anonymous)]

I kink hardcore on this. But I kink hardcore on fandom's typical top loving to get fucked, too, maybe it correlates.

[(Anonymous)]

The weird thing is that when they are in male bodies they're not some weepy stereotype or whatever, but as soon as they've got female parts they just fall apart and are all emotional. It's...really weird and I'm guessing is just the author self-insert or projecting or whatever but it's disappointing because I really love gender role exploration and genderswap is hardly ever actually about that.

[(Anonymous)]

It bothers me so much when the personality is changed, especially when it's a male character to a female character.

[(Anonymous)]

Sometimes these Rule 63 fics have tons of gender essentialist bullshit and that really annoys me. It's more obvious when only one character is swapped.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. It irks me how it's never ever the "hot" character with more salivating fans who gets swapped, always the one people seem to think is effeminate to begin with.

[(Anonymous)]

It irks me how it's never ever the "hot" character with more salivating fans who gets swapped, always the one people seem to think is effeminate to begin with.

You're making some kind of weird assumptions here. First, the idea that more "effeminate" characters aren't considered hot by fandom at large is simply untrue. Blair Sandburg, Legolas, Loki, Daniel Jackson, etc. all have their share of salivating fans...often even more so than their more "masculine" counterparts: Jim Ellison, Aragorn or Gimli, Thor, and Jack O'Neill.

Second, what does "effeminate" even mean with regard to most genderswapped characters and/or how do you determine relative degrees of effeminacy? Who's more effeminate between Kirk and Spock? Sam and Dean Winchester? Sherlock Holmes and John Watson? Cho Hakkai and Sha Gojyo? Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, and Bucky Barnes? The One Direction kids?

And the above paragraph is a bit of a trick question, because every one of those characters gets genderswapped regularly, so even if you think it's obvious that one of the characters in the second paragraph is "hotter," more popular, and more masculine than his counterpart(s)...well, he's still getting genderswapped.

[(Anonymous)]

Mostly people seem to want to turn the 'bottom' in fics into girls and then have a lot of het sex. :(

I've noticed that with Stiles in a lot of Sterek fic, but Teen Wolf and sort-of-but-it's-more-complicated-than-it-seems Thor are the only fandoms where I've noticed this pattern. My impression is that in Supernatural, Star Trek, MCU (excluding Loki fics), and Sherlock, it's pretty much a toss-up as to which character gets genderswapped. And in other fandoms like Harry Potter, there may be a most often genderswapped character (Harry himself, in that example), but he's not a bottom in 90+% of the fics featuring him (e.g., as Stiles is), so it's a completely different dynamic.