[ SECRET POST #2621 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2621 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Hard Candy]


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[Luther]


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13. [SPOILERS for Teen Wolf]



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

One of the reasons I loved this movie was because I felt it did really good job at being so ambiguous in if he was the killer or not. So gotta really disagree with you on the "if you don't automatically know he's bad you are a bad person" line you threw in there.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Jeff hits pretty much every note corresponding to "pickup artist"--offers affection at times, but diminishes Hayley and treats her as childlike in ways that encourage her to "prove" herself, makes a big deal out of small favors and implies that he expects significant repayment, initiates talk about sex in ways that make Hayley seem like the initiator . . . Everything he does in the first twenty minutes is geared around making Hayley become more and more intimate with him while making it seem like she's the one choosing to do so. This is twisted enough when guys try it on grown women, let alone teenagers. (Granted, Hayley sees right through him, but he doesn't know that at the time.)

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, but the way it's done leaves just enough doubt for the audience to wonder and not be sure. Especially with the way Hayley responds. I'm not saying I thought he was a hero or anything, but I definitely had my doubts and the movie kept my opinions bouncing around until the end, which is what I really loved about the movie.

The absolute conviction you have that if you don't agree with your own interpretation means you're a sleazeball is just ridiculous.

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[(Anonymous)]

Not be sure of what? I'm not talking about whether he killed that girl. Dude's a PUA even if he didn't. (Hell, he'd be a PUA even--especially--if Hayley actually had sex with him.)

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[(Anonymous)]

So very much agree. That last sentence. Just, that last sentence. The whole "well, you are clearly not even a human being if you see ambiguity" attitude is just shitty.