[ SECRET POST #2622 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2622 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 076 secrets from Secret Submission Post #375.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not really sure what to say to this unless I'm presented with specific examples. Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt that this occurs, but does that mean ALL of these conversations are wrong?

Good storytelling can often cross cultural boundaries (in fact, for many storytellers that's what they want... it's more profitable) so surely people from different countries should be allowed to speak about these stories?

I'm not saying there aren't some ridiculous viewpoints out there, but I feel like this secret is coming off a little strangely...

[(Anonymous)]

The powerpoint links above show a specific example of this happening, looks like.

[applemagpie]

Yeah, it's a very fine line. I'd say that not all the conversations are wrong. It's not as if Japan is an alien culture living in a secluded bubble away from the West, and it's also not like feminism and LGBT issues are a Western thing only. And there really is nothing wrong with identifying with a piece of media, even if it wasn't the original intent of the creator to make it that way.
I think the problem comes when Western fans make assumptions about the portrayal of gender and sexuality of characters in Japanese media, and then assume their analysis is automatically legitimate, although they're coming from a different cultural perspective. For example, like whenever someone says that Haruka Tenou from Sailor Moon is an example of trans character in media, or that the relationship between Haruka and Michiru is indicative of gay rights. It's not that there isn't any weight to that, but for the most part that's just not the case.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I think part of what bothered me about this secret is that it's not as if everyone consuming anime is completely ignorant about Japan and it's culture, there are definitely some people who are. But with globalization and the internet, it's become a huge thing for critiques of media to cross cultural boundaries, sure sometimes it'll miss the mark, but that doesn't make all the critique invalid.

Regardless of where source material comes from, people are going to see it, and they're going to have feelings about it.

Conversations about feminism and gender are also always complicated anyway, I think we all just need to be more careful about making baseless assumptions and always remain respectful to one another. It's not a conversation I want shut down though, so I hope people still ask questions about it.

[(Anonymous)]

This reminds me a lot of what happened with Serial Experiments Lain. I can't remember if it was the director, Nakamura, or the screewriter, Konaka, but one of them thought that the Western audience and the Japanese audience would interpret Lain differently and it would create some dialogue, but was surprised that the both audience came at the same conclusion.