[ SECRET POST #2623 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2623 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

10. http://i.imgur.com/SiD9uYS.png

[comradesmiler]

That's... actually not a bad idea.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly!

[(Anonymous)]

That wouldn't be Superwholock then? I mean, Superwholock may be the most prevalent mega-crossover thing on Tumblr but it is definitely not the only (or first) one.

[feathercircle]

I seem to remember Brave/HTTYD/Rise of the Guardians smashups being unexpectedly prolific for a while. (I think they might have even worked a fourth CGI film in there somewhere, but damned if I can remember what it was.)

[(Anonymous)]

The fourth was Tangled.

[(Anonymous)]

Tangled was the 4th movie. Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragons was a thing for a while.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it might have been Rapunzel... or at least the ones I was looking at... :)

[(Anonymous)]

I just don't get crossovers.

[dreemyweird]

I wouldn't be, either.

Although I have trouble thinking of a plausible combination. Sherlock Holmes/Rivers of London/Lewis? Doesn't this sound... a little stupid?

Murder Rooms/Rivers of London/Lewis? Bell and Doyle work in the Oxford analogue of the Folly side by side with Postmartin?..

dafuq are those ideas

[(Anonymous)]

Sherlock Holmes/Rivers of London/Lewis? Doesn't this sound... a little stupid?

I would be perfectly happy to plonk Hathaway and Lewis in an RoL version of Oxford, just to see what happens. Especially since I'm fairly sure Lewis would get on probably better with Peter than he would with Peter's guv'nor, and Hathaway and Nightingale might have a surprising amount in common. (Also Lewis meeting Stephanopoulos would be hilarious).

Putting Holmes & Watson in the backstory probably wouldn't be difficult: I could well see that pair as being the origins of several of the 'arrangements' in the setting. There's also just about room for them to meet a young Nightingale too, to link them more firmly up to the present day ...

I'd actually read that, is what I'm saying here.

[(Anonymous)]

Sherlock Holmes/Rivers of London/Lewis? Doesn't this sound... a little stupid?

If by stupid you mean completely awesome, then, yes. Yes, it does. (Someone please start writing this crossover, stat.)

[(Anonymous)]

Yup. It's not the concept of a big crossover that annoys me, it's the specific fandoms and fandom types that go overboard with the whole omgsuperwholock thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Barring crack fic or 'bar at the end of the multiverse' type things, I tend to think there's an upper limit on the number of fandoms you can successfully smush together without it devolving into incoherence. The actual number is negotiable depending on the size of the casts and how close/flexible the universes are in terms of genre and mechanics, but past a certain point I think it just gets messy. Two to four is usually relatively okay, though, I think?

Those particular three ... I'm presuming it's the theme of fighting an unending war that you're interested in? My initial thought was ALL THE ANGST, but now that I think about it, Bats, Slayers and Transformers do actually have a fair few themes in common. Huh.

[(Anonymous)]

Very true. Personally, I find fics that try to pack in too many fandoms/characters to be really boring because the plot usually suffers for it and there's a greater chance that I won't be familiar with all of the fandoms and won't be interested in some of the characters. Two or three fandoms can work - especially if you limit how many characters and concepts from each get to play a significant role - and then there's always room for the odd, oblique reference to others or for a walk-on cameo or two, but that's about as far as you can go and still maintain the average reader's interest.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I read a fic like that once and it was...insane. Real actors started coming in at the end and I was like, no, never again.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

The part I think is the failing point is crossing too many different world mechanics without working out which one you're going with over the others.

I can see one sci-fi/fantasy crossing work, but try to shove together too many different systems and it falls down.

The few SuperWhoLock fics I've seen (given that I rarely go to Tumblr, so I haven't seen much of the gifsets) fail to explain how things work. Is the Doctor wrong when he believes supernatural occurrences can be explained by science? Can angels and demons be explained by him because he knows more science than Earth people do? I like fics that decide one way or the other how things work and seeing how they address the other system from their mindset (a scientist who knows HP-verse magic is a science not known to current muggle society - as example).

[(Anonymous)]

Interesting idea.

[mautradutor]

I have to say that I really enjoy the name you came for this hypothetical fandom. It's quite nice.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I'm with you. I was thinking the other day about Luther crossed with The Killing and how that could remotely make sense. I'm not a crossover fan but sometimes the impulse hits me.

[(Anonymous)]

I like the concept, but it's rare that a writer can do justice to the characters of two fandoms at once, let alone three. The voices and drive of personalities and motivations get lost in the shuffling of plot and bodies everywhere. And usually one fandom is better known than the other two and those characters take precedence in the action.

[diet_poison]

I'm disinterested in Superwholock because the only fandom in that group I care about even a little is DW, and it's definitely one of my more minor fandoms.

I'm not into Batman or Buffy either, and also only a little bit into TF.

I crossover all of my fandoms all the time but probably no given triple combination would be particularly popular (even though there are a few I would adore, and one I've kind of thought about writing).

[(Anonymous)]

Your suggestion is sound, but needs more pretty white boys.

[(Anonymous)]

i want 1920s crossover of Poirot, Jeeves and Wooster, Downton Abbey and Boardwalk Empire. I have no idea what portmanteau name you'd get out of those titles.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I'd take a long look at a BatSlayerFormers fic, if the summary sounded good.

The issue of crossing sci-fi and fantasy I have mentioned in other comments would not even be a huge thing if the Batman part meant inclusion of all of DC-verse in the background, because both DC and Marvel have a propensity to mix both sci-fi and fantasy elements quite liberally, with totally unpowered superheros who depend on equipment and training standing next to humans with powers due to mutation, aliens with natural alien powers, and magic users. That would be easy to jiggle the demons and monsters of BtVS and another alien species (giant sapient robots) into.

Other fandom crosses, with less lax rules than DC, don't always work, and/or the fanfics that happen don't explain how things work properly, leaving me wondering. (SuperWhoLock always makes me wonder, because DW has always treated "supernatural" things as scientifically explainable... if your science is advanced enough. Gifsets never bother to explain how the Doctor who explain SPN demons and angels.)