[ SECRET POST #2624 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2624 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Outlander]


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03.
[The Walking Dead]


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04.
[How I Met Your Mother]


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05.
[Twitch Plays Pokemon]


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06.
[Batman, Kill La Kill, Borderlands]


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07.
[Overlord]


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08.
[Red Dwarf]


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09.
[Paranatural]


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10.
[Pitch Perfect]


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11.
[Insidious: Chapter 2]


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Comments

[thezmage]

Yes, so much more mature to say "I don't care what meaning you took from this, this is what I intended and it's the only meaning you can take from it."

[(Anonymous)]

Except there's a whole lot of room between "ignore author intent entirely" and "ignore reader interpretation entirely"? Like you can consider the author's intent as the author's intent without being all "now we can't have any other interpretation"

You are making a big weird strawman

[thezmage]

We call the belief you espoused "death of the author." It's not about telling the author that he or she is wrong, it's about allowing other viewpoints to hold weight.

You are the one making the big, weird strawman here. Well, you and the OP.

[insanenoodlyguy]

Death of the Author is something I used to hate... until I re-read what it actually was.

Then I realized I was fine with it and it's just people who were using it idiotically and incorrectly that I hated.

"This work could be interpreted as a metaphor for the trans-community's struggles, here's my references as to why"
"I don't really think the author was going for that at all."
"Doesn't matter, you can still take this from the work" - Good

"This character is totally trans!"
"There is nothing in the text at all that-"
"SHUT UP DEATH OF THE AUTHOR." -Nope.

[thezmage]

Yes, this.

[(Anonymous)]

bravo, u said something non-trolly & thoughtful!

[(Anonymous)]

Good distinction.

[intrigueing]

A+

[(Anonymous)]

So much this!

[(Anonymous)]

Yes!

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. Respect both sides, without negating them.

[cakemage]

Very well put.

[scrubber]

I went through a similar process, hating DotA until I actually read up on the points it was making. The one point that I really agree with is that every detail of the author's life needs to be considered before forming ANY interpretation of the author's work, like for example saying LotR can only be looked at through a Catholic lens since Tolkien himself was Catholic. I guess that's where the name comes from. So I agree with that principle, but then if the author has the audacity to clarify some minor physical detail outside the canon people cry "NOT CANON: DEATH OF THE AUTHOR" like... why not?

Then there's weird cultural shit like people insisting that Grave of the Fireflies is an anti-war movie (because that's the message that makes the most sense to a not-Japanese viewer most likely) despite the director explicitly saying that it is not a anti-war film... Grave of the Fireflies isn't a anti-war film, get over it, I guess? I find it arrogant and belittling in this sense.

(The original context is far more interesting anyway.)

[insanenoodlyguy]

Yeah, that's the other big misuse of the thing. Forgot about that, thanks for bringing it up Scrubber

[scrubber]

The Q&A clarification one or the cultural context one?

Yeah, I've always appreciated your opinions on this, some aspects of the DotA philosophy I accept whole-heartily, and some are just excruciating to see.

[applemagpie]

Great way of putting it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. pretty much this.

[gondremark]

+9000

[waterfall8484]

YES.

And that's why I love it. ♥

[dreemyweird]

YES THANK YOU noodly <3

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, neat! I've only ever seen the latter version, and it's made me very suspicious of proponents of DOTA. I didn't realize it was originally intended to refer to the first thing! That's cool.