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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-11 06:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #2625 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2625 ⌋

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Re: Canon Rant Thread

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I have never, ever forgiven Remington Steele for the half-hearted shit that was the last season. So Brosnan was cast as Bond--either let him go or go out with a bang, none of this crappy waffling around.

(Moonlighting Syndrome is nonsense, btw. What kills shows is dumbass writers thinking that the fun character dynamic should disappear now that the main twosome are together, or that you can't have interesting contrasts and conflicts without the two being in open battle)

Fucking Voyager coulda been SO GOOD. I still like it, but the worship of Star Trek status quo kept it from going really fascinating places. (they've been stranded away from all support for years, why is everything still so CLEAN?? just to start)

Re: Canon Rant Thread

(Anonymous) 2014-03-12 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure that if you swapped the writing staffs of Voyager and DS9, you would also completely swap out their critical reputations. If anything, DS9 would have a much more negative rep than Voyager does right now and Voyager would have a much more positive one. They really fucked iup.
philstar22: (Janeway)

Re: Canon Rant Thread

[personal profile] philstar22 2014-03-12 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
But Voyager was Star Trek. Yes, Deep Space Nine was awesome when it went outside the mold, but that doesn't mean that going back to traditional Star Trek was a bad thing. I don't understand the hate Voyager gets, at least not to the level it does, when Next Generation doesn't get the same hate. And both were shows that stuck to the things that made Star Trek what it was.

Love it or hate it, they are both set in the Star Trek universe. Deep Space Nine showed some of the underbelly of that universe, but it still had a lot of the same things.

Re: Canon Rant Thread

(Anonymous) 2014-03-12 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

don't get me wrong, I don't hate Voyager: I just thought it was so dissapointing that they gave it this cool and interesting concept (stranded light-years away from home) and then didn't really do anything with it. The essential optimism and professionalism was Star Trek, but what I always loved was the "To boldly go", the drive to go out and explore--whereas the primary precept of Voyager was returning home. IF they had kept the Star Trek atmosphere but adapted it to the setting--okay, maybe the ship is becoming patchy and jerry-rigged and a bit grubby, maybe we're moving away from the formal uniform to something more adapted to energy conservation, and maybe interpersonal relationships have to change because we're a community now more than just coworkers, but we can still be professionals dammit! Our ultimate goal may be Earth, but our primary focus is the joy of exploring a whole new area of space (it's about the journey more than the destination)--that was what I was really wanting from the beginning and I was sad to see never explored. (some of the tie-in novels did better, I thought....)

Re: Canon Rant Thread

(Anonymous) 2014-03-12 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Just jumping in to say I love this concept, and thanks for sharing it!

Re: Canon Rant Thread

(Anonymous) 2014-03-12 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Two words: Barbie Borg.
philstar22: (Janeway)

Re: Canon Rant Thread

[personal profile] philstar22 2014-03-12 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Not going to agree with you on that. The costuming choices for Seven were irritating and problematic, but her actual character was interesting.

Re: Canon Rant Thread

(Anonymous) 2014-03-12 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
She was bland and boring and only got her job because she was sleeping with one of the executive producers.
cakemage: (Seven has fainted.)

Re: Canon Rant Thread

[personal profile] cakemage 2014-03-12 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure she didn't start going out with the guy until much later on, while she was getting out of a bad marriage. So...no.
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Re: Canon Rant Thread

[personal profile] hands4healing 2014-03-12 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes, the final season of R.S. Of course, I've never forgiven them for taking Murphy and Bernice out of the series.