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"It's The Snow Queen! There is a reindeer! They live in a cold enough climate that they can get ice during midsummer! Everyone is going to be pale simply because it helps them absorb vitamin D! People still travel on *sailing ships* and in *sleds*! It would take someone with dark skin *months* to even get up there, and why would they want to?"

Hey, I'm not the one saying magical Snow Queens follow real life science! And treating it like it's real history. Did you have Queen Elsa in your history class? I didn't. Why would it take someone with dark skin months? They could have magic flying ponies haul them there! Magic! They could teleport. Walk through a magic mirror. Be resurrected by the moon and fly there on a crooked stick, because magic! Not real. No need for "Well in the real world vitamin D!"

Magic looked like it was something rare and uncommon in Frozen. Who has magic in the movie? Only Elsa and the trolls. Well the trolls are a magic race anyway, but Elsa is the only person shown with magic in the whole country, and possibly all the countries who sent envoys to her coronation.

If one counts that brief cameo as an indicator that Tangled is in the same universe, the flower as a rare magical thing as well and a lot of Gothel's scare-mongering centred on the idea that people are greedy and want Rapunzel's rare magic. Not even Gothel had magic there, only Rapunzel, thanks to her mother drinking sunlight-flower-based medicine.

These POCs from way off south may not have all the flying ponies, magic mirrors or teleport there. The people who did make it to Elsa's coronation all had to come by ship, so they certainly didn't.

Yeah but they didn't.

sooooo

No one cares, asspuller.

Look. The straight-up truth is that making the main character white does not make a movie racist. It can make the movie part of a larger issue in Western media of having a dearth on diversity, but unless the movie is actively white-washing (ie. retelling the story of non-white people with white actors), it is not inherently racist for a movie to star white people.

It's especially ridiculous to accuse Frozen of this when a) Disney actually has a decent track record of being racially diverse compared to some things. Aladdin, Lilo & Stitch, Brother Bear, Hunchback of Notre Dame, The Jungle Book, Pocahontas, Mulan, The Emperor's New Groove, Up (if you count Pixar), and The Princess and the Frog all have casts with either completely non-white casts or non-white main characters. Do some of these movies have issues? Yes! Could they do to make more movies that star non-white characters? Totally! But is Frozen racist because the main characters aren't white? NO. Also b) Frozen is probably the first Disney movie set in fantasy-Europe that actually acknowledges that non-white people exist and has several of them in the background of the ballroom scene.

Like, seriously. I'm not saying Frozen doesn't have issues. But it pisses me off that some people are singling it out and acting like it's actually racist (no, that would be something like the Natives in Peter Pan), just because it's about white people.

Do I think the movie itself is racist? Heck no.

Do I think saying the movie would be unrealistic if she weren't white because of vitamin D is racist? YES. If she were real, pale skin would absorb vitamin D better. She'd also probably fall over dead in five minutes because her waist is something like 6 inches around, and she'd look like some sort of strange nocturnal creature with her eyes taking up three fourths of her head. But those are totally cool and suspension of disbelief, BUT NOT DARK SKIN.

Oh, no, the bobble-head look is ridiculous. It was ridiculous in Tangled and it's still ridiculous in Frozen. It's just also entirely tangential to the 'racist' comments. Neither has any bearing on the other besides the basic fact of both referring to a character's appearance.

I can sort of see it in Frozen because of the concept art, which is a style consistent with storybooks from certain European regions, but that doesn't make it look less ridiculous in animation.

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