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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-15 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2629 ]


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Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2014-03-16 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Look. The straight-up truth is that making the main character white does not make a movie racist. It can make the movie part of a larger issue in Western media of having a dearth on diversity, but unless the movie is actively white-washing (ie. retelling the story of non-white people with white actors), it is not inherently racist for a movie to star white people.

It's especially ridiculous to accuse Frozen of this when a) Disney actually has a decent track record of being racially diverse compared to some things. Aladdin, Lilo & Stitch, Brother Bear, Hunchback of Notre Dame, The Jungle Book, Pocahontas, Mulan, The Emperor's New Groove, Up (if you count Pixar), and The Princess and the Frog all have casts with either completely non-white casts or non-white main characters. Do some of these movies have issues? Yes! Could they do to make more movies that star non-white characters? Totally! But is Frozen racist because the main characters aren't white? NO. Also b) Frozen is probably the first Disney movie set in fantasy-Europe that actually acknowledges that non-white people exist and has several of them in the background of the ballroom scene.

Like, seriously. I'm not saying Frozen doesn't have issues. But it pisses me off that some people are singling it out and acting like it's actually racist (no, that would be something like the Natives in Peter Pan), just because it's about white people.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2014-03-16 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Do I think the movie itself is racist? Heck no.

Do I think saying the movie would be unrealistic if she weren't white because of vitamin D is racist? YES. If she were real, pale skin would absorb vitamin D better. She'd also probably fall over dead in five minutes because her waist is something like 6 inches around, and she'd look like some sort of strange nocturnal creature with her eyes taking up three fourths of her head. But those are totally cool and suspension of disbelief, BUT NOT DARK SKIN.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2014-03-17 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, no, the bobble-head look is ridiculous. It was ridiculous in Tangled and it's still ridiculous in Frozen. It's just also entirely tangential to the 'racist' comments. Neither has any bearing on the other besides the basic fact of both referring to a character's appearance.

I can sort of see it in Frozen because of the concept art, which is a style consistent with storybooks from certain European regions, but that doesn't make it look less ridiculous in animation.