[ SECRET POST #2630 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2630 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Do we need to have the talk?

The gender roles and stereotypes and how people don't have to fit in a category talk?

[(Anonymous)]

Do we need to have the talk?

The "people like different genders and if someone does not fit into the category of people they like, that is okay" talk?

[(Anonymous)]

What?

[(Anonymous)]

It's one thing to like a certain gender. It's another thing to declare that someone who doesn't fit into a mold isn't *really* a man or a woman.

[(Anonymous)]

If you honestly believe that this is what Kyoani was trying to portray here, I have bad news.

[(Anonymous)]

No, this is about what the OP deems acceptable to fit the definition of a man. *eyeroll*

[(Anonymous)]

There are gender stereotypes and then there's writing a female character and saying that is a cis man. I don't see where the problem is, complaining about cis female characters being just men with boobs because the author can't into writing women is an actual thing, why should this one be different?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know, a lot of times when I see the "boy with boobs" criticism used it seems to be just another form of policing what women can and should be.

I actually got really upset about this being used to describe Starbuck in BSG, because I've known military women who are like her (my own sister-in-law is one of them!), yet she was used by certain feminists to demonstrate that the show was sexist. There were definitely sexist elements in the show that deserved critique, but that really wasn't one of them. She just didn't fit the mold of what these individuals though "real" women should be, which is pretty sexist in its own right.

[chardmonster]

YEAH

WHY AREN'T THEY CHOPPING WOOD AND SWORDFIGHTING WITH THEIR DICKS AND THEN WATCHING FOOTBALL

THESE ARE CLEARLY GIRLS

complaining about cis female characters being just men with boobs because the author can't into writing women is an actual thing, why should this one be different?

Well, no, it shouldn't be different. Because both positions are absolutely ridiculous.

I'm into a lot of "guy stuff," don't wear makeup and often pass for a guy on forums unless I say I'm female outright. Apparently I'm a man with boobs.

[(Anonymous)]

Guy stuff or girl stuff are just social construction. Gender on the other hand seems to be an actual thing, isn't it? I think I read somewhere that there is scientific evidence that proves that gender do exist.

[(Anonymous)]

Gender, no, sex, yes. That's where being transgender* comes in, as a disconnect between your brain mapped sex and your body's physical sex.

*I know, I just said that it's sex, not gender, but the name says gender; that's because transsexual is considered by a lot of people to be dehumanizing, and focusing on surgery that might not be possible for a person to get, and that doesn't deligitamize their dysphoria.

[chardmonster]

Yeah, "guy things" and "girl things" are a social construction. But so is "gender." Sex isn't, that's biological. I think maybe you're referring to the different brain patterns of cis and trans people? Because that's a bit different I think. We're quibbling over details though.

[(Anonymous)]

+1