[ SECRET POST #2631 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2631 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Are you the person who was complaining about this last week? What are some of your fandoms? Because in my experience, there's usually not just one commonly genderbent character in each fandom: definitely not in Sherlock (both John and Sherlock), Star Trek: AOS (Kirk and Spock; McCoy to a lesser extent), One Direction (the entire band), Supernatural (Dean, Sam, and Castiel), most of the MCU films (Tony, Steve, and Bucky).

The only fandoms I've seen that really seem to have a "one true genderbent character" are Teen Wolf (Stiles) and the Thor movies (Loki). And Loki's a special case since he can and has canonically assumed a female form.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not in any of those fandoms, but I would argue that in the counter examples you provided, none of the characters could be convincingly argued to be significantly more effeminate.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

1) They're nonetheless proof that it's not just the "more stereotypically effeminate guy" in a fandom who gets genderbent.

2) I'm still curious as to what fandoms you're in that you've noticed this particular trend. You don't have to name all of them if you're concerned about outing yourself, but even just two or three examples would be very interesting, since, as I said, I've only seen it myself in Teen Wolf and Thor.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

More prevalent in anime fandoms.

But I WILL add that Rule 63 normally ends up stereotyping the character to hell and back.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

How is that proof? If neither character in a pairing is generally perceived by fandom to be more effeminate then there no "more stereotypically effeminate guy" in that fandom. This says nothing for the fandoms that do have such characters.

I echo other anon, anime fandoms are likely suspects. The Hobbit too, maybe?

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

The Hobbit does get a lot of genderbent Bilbo fic, but there's also a ton of some-of-the-dwarves-are-actually-women fic, including quite a few 63!Bilbo/63!Thorin.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

I think "a ton" is really stretching it. Wasn't there just a minor wank fest on tumblr recently about people not genderbending Thorin enough?

SA

[(Anonymous)]

Was there? I don't have a tumblr, so usually when I go on I check one or two and spend half an hour staring at the pretty artwork, then wander off. I guess when I say "a ton" I'm comparing it to other fandoms that I've been in, where genderbent stuff is usually a small minority. The Hobbit is a fairly large fandom (if you're counting books + movies) and it has a semi-canonical basis for lady-dwarves-who-look-like-dudes-unless-you're-another-dwarf, so it tends to get what I would term a decent amount of genderbent fic just because people want to play around with stuff like "What if Nori was a woman?" for example.