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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-17 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2631 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2631 ⌋

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Re: Annoying misconceptions people have about things you're a fan of?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
CAPTAIN AMERICA DOES NOT HAVE SUPERHUMAN STRENGTH.

CAPTAIN AMERICA DOES NOT HAVE SUPERHUMAN STRENGTH.

CAPTAIN MOTHERFUCKING AMERICA DOES NOT HAVE SUPER-GODDAMNED-HUMAN FUCKING STRENGTH, YOU PACK OF MOTHERLESS BASTARDS.

No. I do not care where you picked up this flatly wrong notion. I do not care and literally nothing you say can make me care, so don't waste your time and insult my intelligence by trying. No, it wasn't in the movies. Yes, I can prove it.

Over and over, for DECADES, the comics have worked very, very, unnecessarily hard to make one thing clear: Captain America operates at peak human levels of strength, speed, coordination, etc. Peak human, and no more. They have spent as much time on this as they've spent on any aspect of his history and character.

This is important because of what Captain America represents. He is the ideal of what we COULD be, as individuals and as a nation. He is, almost definitionally, what is best in us.

The most important line about Captain America is "Ordinary people could do a lot of what he does... if we cared as much. And if we tried as hard."

Giving him superhuman strength wrecks that symbolic value. It's like giving Batman the power to teleport or making Superman not from Krypton. So on the few occasions where canon-ish writers have mistakenly identified Cap as having super-strength, THEY ARE WRONG. They're as wrong as if they made Spider-Man a millionaire playboy or Rorschach a straightforward protagonist.

Re: Annoying misconceptions people have about things you're a fan of?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
You can lay that at the feet of the writers and artists. If you show a character doing things that are literally impossible for normal Earth humans to accomplish, people are going to refer to them as superhuman. Reality is our reference point for that kind of shit.

Re: Annoying misconceptions people have about things you're a fan of?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Baloney. Nobody calls Batman superhuman, and he's been known to start from ground level and SWING UP to third-story buildings, among a million other things. Heck, even in the MCU, nothing Black Widow does is physically possible in anything resembling reality, but nobody starts talking about her as one of the strongest superhumans in that universe.

Re: Annoying misconceptions people have about things you're a fan of?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, no it isn't. "Normal" people in action movies do impossible stuff all the time.

Re: Annoying misconceptions people have about things you're a fan of?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)


The most important line about Captain America is "Ordinary people could do a lot of what he does... if we cared as much. And if we tried as hard."


And if we were shot full of steroids and other super-soldier chemicals.

At least with Batman we know he loathes super-steroid users and has done it all himself, even if his untold billions help, but Cap is the Lance Armstrong of the Marvel universe. He can do things which might as well be super-human, but only because he is on super-drugs.