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[ SECRET POST #2632 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2632 ⌋

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[Game of Thrones]

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[Patrick Stump / Fall Out Boy]

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[Men in Black, Agent Coulson]

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[Twin Peaks]

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[Defenders of Berk/How To Train Your Dragon 2]

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[Lily Allen]

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[Attack on Titan]

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[The Brittas Empire]

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[Panic! at the Disco]

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[Frozen]

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I don't want to talk about The Big Thing so close to the top of a post, so first let's talk about my favorite thing of this episode: Coach Bobby Finstock! I've always liked him, and I've always been afraid for him, being that he's role is so tangential to pretty much everything. But this was the first episode where I *maybe* started to wonder if he knows more than it seems. It was just something about the way he talked to Madeline (after the "insane asylum/nut house" lines, which, I'm sorry, were hilarious to me). But regardless of what he knows or doesn't know, it was really nice seeing him get a Big Damn Hero moment. (Sidenote: Netflix is sending me an Orny Adams DVD, and I can't freaking wait.)

I also feel it's all but confirmed that Parish isn't exactly normal, what with that line about feeling called to Beacon Hills.

Now, on to That Thing That Happened.

So...Allison died. It's weird, because I like Allison and I'm sad to see her go...but...I don't feel too broken up about it. Because, as much as I would have *liked* them to show that your first love is special and important, but it's probably not your only love, but that doesn't mean the friendship has to desintigrate, I get it from a story telling perspective. And it's not like Allison wasn't a fully realized character or like she existed just to die. She had a good arc. I'm really glad she got that last scene with Argent, though. In hindsight, that probably should have been a neon sign that she'd be the one to bite it, but...I honestly kind of forgot anyone would die for the most part, and when I remembered, it sure looked like it was going to be Isaac.

On to some speculation: I think season 4 is going to have an angry Isaac joining up with Peter and Malia and maybe one of the twins in a little pseudo pack that will then make a run on Scott's pack and his power. I'm not sure how anything else fits into anything, though.

Allison died but c'mon, who are the writers fooling here. She's going to come back in some shape or form. Maybe something undead?

And, oh, yeah, Parish is a monster. I wonder if his name is a clue though.

Totally agree with you re: Coach. He tossed some less-than-awesome words around, but he was *awesome* with Madeline, and in the end, he was the Big Damn Hero. He's been a fun distraction semi-foil for all three seasons, but I have to agree, too - he seems to have a bit of background/knowledge that might make him something else.

Parish is for sure *not human*, or someone like Deaton, or something. I do hope he's not evil, 'cause the Sheriff doesn't need that, but yeah...totally.

I'm sorry that Allison is dead because honestly - she had a lot of story left. He could have killed the twins or her dad or Scott's dad or *someone else*, even Kira's mom, but Allison? It's fucking gratuitous and annoying. All the permanently-dead characters on that show have been women, and it's getting fucking old.

I linked to an article below. Crystal Reed asked to leave and that's why it was Allison.

Aw, that's too bad. Thanks for the link!

Yeah, it is because they could have found a way to send her off somewhere but oh well.

You're welcome :)

All the permanently-dead characters on that show have been women, and it's getting fucking old. Yea, I'm not okay with that either. I'm frustrated. Even though Crystal wanted to leave they didn't have to kill her character off.

Exactly. If they'd killed off Chris, for instance, she could have pulled a 'Derek and Cora' and run off to points unknown in the last ep of the season or something.

Though, the article linked below sounded like she was getting a bit fed up with playing a 17 year old whose storyline was kinda stuck in second gear, which i don't blame her for, so.....

Yes, there were ways to get her off-screen if they had wanted to and it would've left Allison alive just in case Crystal ever wanted to return and pick up the role.

I do understand why Crystal wanted to leave, though. I certainly don't blame her, but she LOVED Allison, seriously, seriously adored playing the character, and I guess that makes it worse for me. She was definitely one of the more fleshed out characters, had a completely interesting back-story, could've done a lot more...it just feels like a waste to me. I would've at least liked to have a happy head-canon for her...which is shot to hell now.

Yup - i totally agree. She had a good story, and there was a *lot* more that could have been done with it, even if she wanted to leave, but it seems Jeff has no real clue how to *deal* with characters. Meh.

So glad the fanfiction and meta for this show is so awesome.

Yea... :(

I'm glad I got into the show, but right now I'm not sure about the direction it might be taking. If things change TOO much I might stick to fanfic.

All the permanently-dead characters on that show have been women, and it's getting fucking old.
Not true.

And not only did Crystal Reed want off the show, she also doesn't want to ever go back. She and Jeff discussed it and decided death because they've had more developed characters leave Beacon Hills than die, and it would also cut down on her getting harassed by fans about returning to the show.

Um...not blaming *her*. But they really could have had her gone without killing her off. Meh. I get her not wanting to stay - her character had so little to do this past season, and her 'darkness' story got dropped, and she was Isaac's new love or whatever and they seemed to keep focusing on that instead of...the many, many, many things about her they *could* have focused on.

I'm just disappointed that, once again, the way out is killing someone off that really doesn't *need* to be killed off. It's lazy writing.

Her "darkness" story was dropped because she wanted to leave. She told Jeff she wanted to leave partway into 3b and there was scrambling to rewrite a couple episodes and they had to make changes to a lot of things for the rest of the season because what they had planned wouldn't work; the main story arc in 4a was supposed to be about her and most of what they had planned for her for 3b was setting that up. The result was dropped storylines and her character not having much to do because they couldn't come up with much to fit in with the main story arc for 3b. They weren't going to take away from that so they could devote more screentime for hastily conceived new things for Allison to do.

I agree there are other ways for a character to leave a show than killing them off, but that doesn't mean they can never kill someone off. They don't kill off every character, they don't kill off only women as you claimed, and the actress wanted her character killed off. I just don't see why anyone has a problem with this.

I think she left to leave in 3a, so no. The problems with her character are on Davis and not Crystal.

A link to this info, please?

All the permanently-dead characters on that show have been women, and it's getting fucking old. Um, no.

Boyd
Matt
Ennis
Mr. Harris
Mr. Lahey
Barrow
(Plus the janitor, the bus driver, the arsonists, that one hunter guy, the mechanic, dude from the couple in the trailer, several sacrifices, several deputies, etc.)

whoops this went to the wrong place!

Edited 2014-03-19 00:37 (UTC)

She had a good arc.

Allison really didn't have a good arc this season. She was replaced with Kira and then sidelined with Isaac for 3b. The most badass she was this season was the episode before this and then her quick battle-death scene.

She had a good series arc, though.

Her season 1 and 2 arc were good yes, but I can't say series as she was shafted completely in the arc she died in.

Meredith, not Madeline. Oh, and Parrish, not Parish.

I do think you're right about Parrish, but I don't know about Coach - he may have actually just been trying to do what he thought was right (and because that attendant guy was a total douche).

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They might still kill off the twins (I would).

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