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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-20 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2634 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2634 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-20 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Read The Five Orange Pips and then wallow in your bitter tears because BBC!Sherlock would never be as graceful and happy to be wrong as canon!Holmes.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-20 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Er, I meant The Yellow Face. Whoops.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-20 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man, that's definitely one of my favorites. Holmes uses a perfectly valid line of deductive reasoning, as always, and is just SO WRONG and it's amazing how gracefully he accepts that. It's one of my favorite moments for the character, and also one of the reasons why I just can't accept BBC!Sherlock as the same person.

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[personal profile] badass_tiger 2014-03-20 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for reminding me of that story! That's one of the stories that shows that what Holmes is really a great guy and a big part of his detective thing is being nice to others. That's an important part of who Holmes is that a lot of adaptations get wrong - yeah Holmes likes to show off, but that doesn't mean he's not actually a nice person.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
Holmes and I followed them down the lane, and my friend plucked at my sleeve as we came out.

"I think," said he, "that we shall be of more use in London than in Norbury."

Not another word did he say of the case until late that night, when he was turning away, with his lighted candle, for his bedroom.

"Watson," said he, "if it should ever strike you that I am getting a little over-confident in my powers, or giving less pains to a case than it deserves, kindly whisper 'Norbury' in my ear, and I shall be infinitely obliged to you."

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
We-ell, I don't know about Gatiss' psyche, but Sherlock is clearly Moffat's wish fulfilling avatar, so...
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[personal profile] blueonblue 2014-03-20 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
You sound like Sam Vimes. In a couple of the Watch novels he is suspicious of "deductions".
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[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-03-20 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Sam Vimes>Sherlock Holmes. I share his suspicions.
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[personal profile] blueonblue 2014-03-21 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
If I had to judge a detective contest between Sam Vimes and ACD Sherlock Holmes... I don't think I could!

(Sherlock vs Sam Vimes, no contest.)
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2014-03-21 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Another bloody Clue? You can't trust Clues, they muddy up the investigation!

(Anonymous) 2014-03-20 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously. There are lots of reasons to have shaky hands other than drunkenness. There are lots of reasons to take your wedding ring off regularly other than being unfaithful. He's just lucky, most of the time.
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[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-03-20 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-20 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, to be fair, that's what Holmes does in canon too.

The difference is that if canon Holmes was totally wrong, he'd just go "what, really??? How fascinating! Watson! Put this down in your next book to show your readers I'm not as infallible as your overexaggerated scribblings claim me to be!"
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I'm replying mostly so I can save this comment for later.

[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2014-03-21 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously, now I finally know what people mean when they say they want to marry a comment.

OP

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, exactly why I have a problem with BBC Sherlock. Thank you for this.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
A lovely example of a published crossover with this is Flashman and the Tiger by George MacDonald Fraser. It's one of the standard Flashman books, but it has Flashie pretending to be a drunk seaman after having hunted Moran down in the vicinity of the Empty House (Moran was making moves on Flashman's daughter), and having to sit there and listen to Holmes making deductions about him based on things like his old German duelling scars, etc.

The thing is, while everything Holmes said is perfectly plausible and the most likely explanation for Flashman's condition, this is Flashman he's talking about, who has had the single most convoluted life it's possible to have as a fictional British political officer, spanning five decades by this point. Occam's razor might get you a drunken German sailor who used to be nobility, based on duelling scars and general condition, but no way will it get you Prisoner of Zenda style shenanigans forty years ago.

I always liked it, because it wasn't so much pointing out that Holmes was wrong, as such, as it was pointing out that life is sometimes a lot more crazy and convoluted than logical deductions can really allow for, even if we aren't all eighty year old ex-spies with the most insane service record in history.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-20 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you write the first episode of the newest Jonathan Creek series?
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[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-03-20 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought he was off quite a few times in BBC Sherlock, or at least in the details. Even in that oft-quoted deduction on John's phone, he tells John he has a brother.

I do find his deductions pretty annoying. I have complete sympathy with the secret.
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[personal profile] loracarol 2014-03-21 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I would read that fanfic. Hell, I'd write that fanfic, if I was still in the Sherlock fandom, and if I knew what I was doing, but I don't. |D

I mean, I knew that shakey hands could equal drunkness, or some form of neurological illness, maybe? But which one! Parkinsons tends to show up in older people, so that might be out... Some form of chronic fatigue, or protien-misfolding issue, maybe? Hmmm...

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
RSI, early-onset arthritis....

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[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-03-21 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
One of my hands shake* because a year ago it got stuck in a bus door and I probably have a pinched nerve or something, which wouldn't even be in the top 10 list of reasons to why someones hand would shake...

*Not constantly mind you, but often enough.


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(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
One of my favourite Sherlock drabbles is this stupid little au fic where Sherlock works at Starbucks to fund his habit of running around doing the crime-solving thing, and he loves to deduce peoples orders, and John comes in and Sherlock is all, oh from your limp and jumper style I can predict you want yadda yadda yadda, and John is all, "Nope, cuppa tea please." "No surely you want this-." "...Still pretty sure I want a cup of tea, actually".

Love to see him taken down a peg!
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[personal profile] ekaterinn 2014-03-21 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oooh, do you have a link to that fic? Sounds like my...cup of tea. :P

(Anonymous) 2014-03-21 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
I read a short fic once from John's POV when they first meet and there's an alternate explanation for everything Sherlock deduces about John, like he was never a doctor or a soldier, he has a history with Bart's because he used to work there as a janitor and he has a limp because he recently fell off of a ladder. John doesn't tell Sherlock any of this but just plays along because he finds it hilarious.

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