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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-21 07:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #2635 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2635 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Casshern (film)]


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[cosplay, Anthony Misiano]


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03. http://i.imgur.com/4s3vCwo.png
[link for nudity/etc. naked mpreg snape with boobs.]


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04. http://i.imgur.com/aQi1eUV.png
[link for nudity (OP requested it; not really sexual though. probably would've been ok, considering the one below ↓)]


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08. [posted twice]


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09.
[Josh Radnor]


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10. [SPOILERS for Sherlock]



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11. [SPOILERS for Grimm]



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12. [SPOILERS for Twisted]



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13. [WARNING for ephebophilia]



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14. [WARNING for suicide]



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dethtoll: (Default)

Re: Dragnet, Or, "You Dirty Hippies, Respect Mah Authoritah!"

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-03-22 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Possibly, but doubtful. Counter-examples, please?

Re: Dragnet, Or, "You Dirty Hippies, Respect Mah Authoritah!"

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even know what you're talking about so I can't exactly give counter-examples. In what way are cop shows fascist? (unless they, like, portray all lawbreaking as a betrayal of the state or something...and *I* can't think of any examples of that.)

Re: Dragnet, Or, "You Dirty Hippies, Respect Mah Authoritah!"

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Many cop shows have a tendency to portray police officers as nearly infallible instruments of justice who are always correct, and even more worrying, a tendency to depict them violating civil rights and procedures in an approving light. Internal Affairs officers are creeps and villains; police officers who do Whatever It Takes are heroes trying to put Bad Guys away. That's usually where this criticism comes from: cop shows have a tendency to put across the message that the police are nearly always in the right, and should be allowed to do whatever they want.
dethtoll: (Default)

Re: Dragnet, Or, "You Dirty Hippies, Respect Mah Authoritah!"

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-03-22 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Beat me to it.

Re: Dragnet, Or, "You Dirty Hippies, Respect Mah Authoritah!"

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think they really do, though. Cop shows almost never have "cops" being infallible. They have "these few specific cops who are the main characters" being nearly infallible, the same way 99% of all TV shows portray their heroes. In cop shows, other cops who are not the heroes are very frequently portrayed as fallible, corrupt, wrong, abusive, zealous, dangerous, bullying, etc.

Re: Dragnet, Or, "You Dirty Hippies, Respect Mah Authoritah!"

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know how relevant that distinction is when just by the nature of a drama we spend by far the most time watching the heroes. That still ends up being the overwhelming message all the time, when you look at it on a macro scale, even when you have other cops being bad. Even if a given show isn't explicitly saying this is what all police are like, it's still treating that kind of behavior and those kinds of attitudes as a good thing and it's still focusing its attention and sympathy on a cop who is like that. I mean I just don't think that's a great defense.

Re: Dragnet, Or, "You Dirty Hippies, Respect Mah Authoritah!"

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I don't think it's a defense, exactly. It's more like...it feels to me that it's just a case of cop shows not bothering to make an exception to the way 99% of all TV portrays their heroes; rather than that cop shows are uniquely problematic.

Just like medical dramas don't make an exception to the way that 99% of all TV portrays main characters' feelings as more important than the plights of one-offs. Or like how sci-fi shows don't bother to make an exception to cheap "lol men are from mars women are from venus" plots. It's a failure to distinguish oneself when given the chance to distinguish oneself. It's not a unique, intentional problem of the genre's own unique making.

Re: Dragnet, Or, "You Dirty Hippies, Respect Mah Authoritah!"

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
"The police", or "the heroes, who happen to be police"? There's a pretty big difference and I can't think of a single cop show off the top of my head that is "rah rah all police are great!"

Re: Dragnet, Or, "You Dirty Hippies, Respect Mah Authoritah!"

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
See my reply to above.

And I do apologize because I am making a generalization. But the point is that cop shows have a tendency to endorse these attitudes, and they have a tendency to spend most of their time and narrative energy on a portrayal of police who are rah rah great at everything.

Re: Dragnet, Or, "You Dirty Hippies, Respect Mah Authoritah!"

[personal profile] the_missing_y 2014-03-22 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Luther? The Sweeny? Castle? Murdoch Mysteries? The Bill?

Re: Dragnet, Or, "You Dirty Hippies, Respect Mah Authoritah!"

[personal profile] the_missing_y 2014-03-22 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, ok having seen the criteria for Fascism, I would like to remove Luther and the Sweeny from this list, haven't seen enough of castle yet to know if it fits, though. Murdoch Mysteries and the Bill still count for me, though.