[ SECRET POST #2636 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2636 ⌋

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Comments

[sparklywalls]

I actually think the people making excuses seem to have died down a little post-Dark World. Not sure why that is but I am seeing less of it. Hopefully more people have realised that you can like a character who has a nasty streak and does horrible things and it doesn't say anything about you, so you don't need to try and deflect said character's obvious issues onto anyone else.

I've always liked villains though so I got over that issue a long time ago. Maybe I'm being unfair on people who've never really liked a villain before?

[diet_poison]

Maybe, but they've had a very long time by now to figure it out. |D

[nyxelestia]

Eh, I've never been particularly slanted towards villains and I always thought it was pretty obvious.

I think it has more to do with woobification - it's easier to like a woobie than other types of characters, and easy to like someone who has a "good personality" regardless of the bad they do (and hate someone with a "bad personality" regardless of the good they do).

I also suspect that in many ways, people identified more with Loki (in an "underdog of the family and always feeling second-best to someone else" kind of way), so they projected their own personal issues onto him, one which got confounded when the "Marvel Asgardians hate intellectuals" stereotype of a few decades ago morphed it all into "Loki was hated because he was brains instead of brawn/favored a less-used weapon and strategy over the dominant one", something which again many people in fandom identified with more.

I'm with you and nightscale in liking him because he is such an asshole, not in spite of it. I like a redeemed asshole way more than "secretly woobie all along", especially if they aren't all that redeemed. I think it adds more weight to Loki's actions in Thor 2 that he still loves his mother dearly and wanted to avenge her despite all his other issues and what he's done, than if he'd been a "secret woobie/misunderstood all along" type. A "good guy" avenging his mom is expected, a "bad guy" avenging his mom is interesting. :P

[elialshadowpine]

Totally with all of your last paragraph. I dislike woobification, but I think Loki's a very interesting character and like him because of his character. I'm quite interested to see where they go with the storyline as per the end of Dark World.

[nyxelestia]

On the one hand, I would like to see him achieve some form of redemption merely because I think it would make for a fantastic story. I would like him to turn out to be a total asshole who still does good in the end.

...on the other hand, I really like the fact he is a total asshole, and as much as I would like to see that story, I'm not sure how well it can be pulled off within a movie or two, so while I would like to see redemption I also kind of hope it doesn't happen.

*iz conflicted*