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You are not wrong about the soap opera. I love OUAT so much, but holy gods is it ever soapy as hell.

Rumple is fascinating, though, because he's actually an incredibly weak and emotional man pretending to be a calm, rational chessmaster. He's all calm-calm-scheming-calm and then flips out or crumples in tears when people push the wrong buttons. And it's odds-on whether he's more dangerous in his emotional or rational states, because when he's rational he'll spend 300 years calmly planning the demise of a world, but when he's emotional he decides to spend 300 years calmly planning the demise of a world. Also, flips out, burns castles down and kills demons. He's easier to defeat when he's emotional because he makes more mistakes, but he's also at his most physically dangerous then, and it's where all his stupidly strong resolve emerges from. If you deliberately make him cry, you'd better put him down there and then because if you don't he will hold that grudge well into the 'rational scheming' phase, and then you are screwed.

Also, he looks incredibly pathetic when he crumples. Robert Carlyle's face. And he cries for good stuff as well as bad. He cries when someone he loves gives him hope, he cries when confessing his feelings, he goddamn cries over a hamburger (well, much more meaningful in context, but still).

He is weak and fragile and emotional and goddamn lethal. I love him.

goddammit this almost makes me want to start watching the show again

almost

because Robert Carlyle really was the best part of it

OP of OUAT thread--I don't know if anyone is still doing this, but people used to make compilations of various OUAT characters' flashbacks and SB scenes in chronological order. Maybe hunt down one of those for Rumpelstiltskin? Also, no idea when you stopped watching, but season 2 derailed about halfway through when the writers got the rights to Peter Pan. Now, halfway through season 3, it looks to maybe be picking up again. Dunno if it's enough to get the show past season 4 that'll probably happen to guarantee syndication rights, but 3.11 and 3.12 feel almost like the best parts of season 1.

Fair warning: if you stopped watching because "goddammit, why the fuck is everyone related?" then stay the hell away and just look for Rumple compilations.

Love-letter-to-Rumplestiltskin anon here, and I'll agree with this too. The Neverland arc in particular had pacing issues up the wazoo and did some alarming things to some characters' story arcs, introduced a very annoying love triangle, and threw in probably the most WTF curve-ball long-lost relative yet (though the second half of S3 promises to do that again). Around half way through S2 things got weird and clunky and the whole everyone's-related thing got really weird, and they're only just picking back up again now.

The show's got problems. Quite a few of them. I love it, but then I would probably watch the biggest ball of shite and tripe just to see Rumple and Emma be awesome and tragic some more. I don't think we're there yet, and I actually think we're recovering a bit right now, but I am horribly biased and should admit that up front :)

AYRT--I dunno if I'd categorize him as 'weak,' though--he thinks of himself that way, and he's way more emotional than the typical macho hero type, but if he was really weak, when he crumpled into a ball and cried he'd stay there. He breaks down a lot, but he's never not picked himself up again. His only real weakness, in both the "enemies can use it against him," and the "fucks with his self-control" sense is his reliance on magic.

I worry about that, though, because the way the show has been framed, it seems like his only chance at happiness is to give up magic entirely forever, and unless everyone he cares about (admittedly not a big group) agrees to stay with him in a land without magic while all his enemies are back in FTL and can't try and kill him or his family, giving up magic would basically mean someone would eventually kill him and/or hurt his family to get revenge for something he'd done.

(Plus I don't see him getting a happy ending, Belle or no Belle, if Bae dies, but apparently not many people care about that because he can have more kids with Belle or something. I'm a Rumbeller and all, but ugh. It's not like Belle will be happy if he dies either.)

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