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but why does everyone need to be able to do well in every subject? why isn't it okay for people to excel in some subjects and be only average in others?

i agree with nyxelestia - i think a huge part of the problem is that we expect everyone to be good at everything when that just isn't possible for most people. it is, at its heart, treating people as if they're deficient when they don't meet up to an arbitrary standard. not being good at math is not a bad thing, nor is it a deficiency. some people just aren't wired for math and scientific concepts. for some people, no amount of tutoring is going to help them understand a subject. rather than trying to make this into a disorder, it would be a lot more beneficial to recognize that some people just don't do well in certain areas and instead let them focus on the things that they ARE good at.

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some students genuinely can't, though. you can explain something over and over again to them, have them do dozens of practice problems, and they still won't get the concept well enough to be able to do it on their own. i don't think something like that should be called a disorder, because that implies some sort of deficiency or problem.

i guess what i hate is how these days everything has to be a "disorder" instead of just recognizing that hey, people are different, and someone can be bad at math or have a short attention span or be somewhat socially awkward without actually having anything wrong with them.

if someone sucks at math so badly that they are getting held back and just thinking about math tests is making them flip out

The problem is that kids who suck at math but aren't NEARLY that bad are getting caught in the same net as the ones who are actually that bad. There's a big difference between what you described and the kid who just needs to repeat a math class in elementary school in order to catch up, but the way a lot of schools, families, and even medical professionals handle things leads to people not really seeing that difference.

a.) I would assume that a strain on community resources would be a given - there are never enough affordable and legal doctors, tutors, and caregivers around in my experience. All too often they're affordable but illegal, or legal but unaffordable, but they need to be both to be of any help when it comes to taking advantage of using official diagnoses to cover the costs of resources (if they even do so in the first place, and don't end up just marginalizing the kid by the school with no compensating resources because the school is poor and the insurance company/policy is a dick).

b.) Discalculia is a very mild example, and in this instance the biggest problem is that it perpetuates the attitude that every minor flaw is some kind of disastrous disorder rather than a normal deviation from the norm - sure, on its own, it doesn't mean or do much, but it is part of a much larger problem, and shouldn't be ignored because of that.

c.) More pressing examples are situations like false-positive ADHD - in which kids are taking unnecessary medication to help out their parents rather than themselves, and their grades don't get better and their personal lives suffer - to things like assuming every instance of getting sad to the point of it interfering with your life is some kind of neurological disorder, instead of just a reaction to life circumstances (immediate or otherwise) that is severe because the originating problem is severe in and of itself. In both those cases, the unnecessary medication on its own is problematic, and that's before accounting for the possibility that messing with brain chemistry like that can actually cause problems on its own. And both of those are problems that are still ahead of the social impact of people being labelled with these disorders.

In other words, it wouldn't be such a problem if 'the system' worked smoothly, but not it does not always work smoothly, there really is no cohesive system, which means it's far too easy to fall through the cracks and for having various false-positive diagnoses ultimately do more harm than good because of this.

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