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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-24 06:51 pm

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-25 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
What's the threshold for caring? Eating disorders among men are increasing; when does it become okay to care about men's body image? Exercise disorders are already higher among men than women; when does it become okay to care about men's body image? Male suicide rate's higher by a factor of five; when does it become okay to care about that?

I'm genuinely asking. At what point does it become okay, by you, to care about people?
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-03-25 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
"Exercise disorder"?

Not trying to dismiss your comment, just never heard of that before.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-03-25 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Some people exercise too much instead of eating too little. I'm not sure if it's usually called an exercise disorder. Mostly I've seen it lumped in with the various types of anorexia.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-03-25 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I have heard of it being seen as a symptom of anorexia, but I've never heard of it as a separate disorder. I could see it being a thing, though.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-25 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Othorexia is an obsession with eating only healthy foods. I don't know if excessive exercise is lumped in there? I've seen people discussion exercise addiction, but I don't know if it actually has a name.

sa

(Anonymous) 2014-03-25 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
suicide attempts are higher in women than men, as a total. men are only more likely to succeed.

objectification does hurt. but you have to analyse the consequences and consider the fact that women objectifying men doesn't hurt them, but rather patriarchal standards set by men themselves tend to leave many men with complexes. women don't have the institutional power to oppress men through objectification.

Re: sa

(Anonymous) 2014-03-25 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Feminists use patriarchy like zealots use God. No one can see it, but it is totally responsible for everything ever.

Re: sa

(Anonymous) 2014-03-25 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
No one can see it? Must be nice to be a man. I see it all the time.

Re: sa

(Anonymous) 2014-03-25 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
I AM a man and I see it all the time. But I do think that kyriarchy is a better model for understanding it.

Re: sa

(Anonymous) 2014-03-25 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Followup question, then: at what point do we decide that women do have institutional power? You would agree, I hope, that women have MORE power in society than they did fifty years ago? We're on the same page that that's a good thing, right? But it doesn't count yet, according to you. That's cool. At what point DOES it count? What's a metric we can hit?

nayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-03-25 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
I would assume we would agree that women have institutional power when they are, y'know, the majority force in an institution of some kind (like the government, religion, media production, etc.). Which I think we can all acknowledge that they don't yet.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-03-25 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, women are over 50% of the population. If they ain't voting women into government and such, that is their own fault.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-03-25 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's the thing about politics: you can't just waltz into it. There's a reason that our politicians (on a national level, at least) tend to be well-connected and somewhat wealthy.

Can't vote a woman in if there isn't a woman candidate, and the barriers to entry for prospective women candidates are still higher than they are for men. This is starting to change, obviously, as evidenced by the increased presence of women in politics, but we're not quite there yet.