[ SECRET POST #2641 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2641 ⌋

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Comments

[erinptah]

I was so happy when I found a site saying (speculating?) that Enobaria is a feminine form of Enobarbus (Ahenobarbus), which is a legitimate Roman name. If we had a culture where Roman names came back in a big way, this is exactly the kind of adaptation and transformation we'd start to see.

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder if it's typical for District 2 to ape the Capital in their names.

[erinptah]

Two is the district of Cato and Brutus, so yeah, it seems to be a theme.

[(Anonymous)]

I checked the Hunger Games wiki and it looks like District 2 is the only one that never revolted against the capital, so maybe they have some sort of special relationship with the Capital and use similar names?

[lex_antonia]

Cato and Brutus, too.

[sarillia]

They seem most sympathetic to the Capital what with providing Peace Keepers and everything so I could see them trying to be like them.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

One minor reveal of Mockingjay is that District 2 and the Capitol are politically, culturally, and genetically close. District 2 is where exiled Capitol Citizens typically end up working off debt.

[quantumreality]

It is. In fact, Suzanne Collins set up a nice little bit of misdirection when she had Katniss state that as far as she knew the Peacekeepers were from the Capitol, because they have Capitol names.

Boom surprise, in Mockingjay we learn that nope, actually District 2 supplies a lot of them, which instantly explains why a Capitol-like-named Romulus Thread could be such a brute.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

I thought they were Shakespeare references. I mean, you have:

[elephantinegrace]

The aforementioned Enobaria (Enobarbus was a character in Antony & Cleopatra)

Coriolanus Snow (Coriolanus is the title of one of his later plays.)

Octavia (there was a character named Octavius in Antony & Cleopatra and in Julius Caesar)

Cinna (a character in Julius Caesar)

Cato (another character in Julius Caesar)

Lavinia (a character in Titus Andronicus)

Wasn't there a character named Caesar in THG? I think there was. And I feel like there are other examples, but I can't recall any at the moment.

Actually...

[funyarinpainahat]

They've got some pretty brilliant references to Ancient Rome. Look up Seneca, in relation to Nero. Some incredible parallels there.

Re: I thought they were Shakespeare references. I mean, you have:

[(Anonymous)]

Octavia's in Antony & Cleopata, too! She's Octaviaus' sister, whom he marries to Antony as a gesture of goodwill / pretext for war when he steps out on her.

Girls in the Roman Republic were given the feminine form of their father's name, rather than names of their own. Octavia had an older sister named Octavia Major, and her children by Antony were Antonia Major and Antonia Minor

/roman nerdery

Re: I thought they were Shakespeare references. I mean, you have:

[(Anonymous)]

Caesar Flickerman, the emcee. :)

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[(Anonymous)]

Hmm, interesting. I noticed a trend in the names used by the Capitol citizens, but I assumed they were just supposed to be Latin names rather than names from Shakespeare(to make a parallel between the Capitol and the Roman empire, I guess?). Someone else mentioned Seneca, there were also the other stylists, Flavius and Octavia, Plutarch, and even Effie could have been short for Euphemia. Then there was Brutus in Catching Fire, though that was also the name of a character in Julius Caesar.

In the first movie, one of the gamemakers who wasn't in the books was called Lucia, so the filmmakers were aware of the naming trend and stuck to it when they added a minor character.

I think Cato, Brutus, and Enobaria's name could be explained by some of the people in the wealthy/"career" districts trying to copy people from the capitol by using the same style of names. The kids from the less wealthy districts had normal names (or corrupted versions of them, like "Peeta") or nature-inspired names (Katniss, Primrose, Gale, Rue, Thresh).

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[(Anonymous)]

even Effie could have been short for Euphemia

Or Euthymia or Eudoxia, if you pronounce them like Greeks do--"Efthimia" and "Evdohia." (I have relatives with those names.)

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[(Anonymous)]

Some of the characters with names that turn up in Shakespeare also have parallels to the bard's plays -- specifically thinking of the brief mention about a tribute named Titus cannibalizing the bodies of his fallen opponents, and the fact that Lavinia-the-Avox, well, had her tongue cut out (though at least she gets to keep her hand in HG?)

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[erinptah]

I think it's just that Shakespeare was also inspired by ancient Rome in writing several of his plays. There aren't characters in Panem with non-Roman Shakespearean names (no Titania, Oberon, Ophelia, Juliet, Mercutio, Caliban, etc), but, as that one anon pointed out, there are several with Roman names not used by Shakespeare.

[ceebeegee]

The land is called Panem and the HG are a clear parallel to the ludi (gladiator games) so yeah, SC was def inspired by Roman culture.