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I love how tumblrites also like to say Europeans were the most 'bloodthirsty people in history'. It's as if they stick their fingers in their ears and go "lalalla" whenever someone brings up that non-white people had slaves in history, and brutally slaughtered their enemies, and sacrificed hundreds of thousands of innocent people, just like most other cultures did.

Whoa there, no facts allowed around here, buddy.

And the relevancy of your post to the secret is...

Fairly obvious. I have seen tumblr talk about white savior Danny ad nauseam. These are the same people who say what I said above.

"White savior" is a trope in recent (last couple of centuries) Western literature and media, not applied to all of human history worldwide. Said media isn't the world, but its biases do exist and are very particular.

"Western". Why don't you say Anglo-Saxon instead.

Because that seems oddly specific considering I'm not just talking about people of Germanic descent? I guess?

Please give an example of a white savior story that is not from an Anglo-Saxon/Germanic source.

90% of Hollywood. One particularly notorious recent example being Jake Sully from "Avatar". Is Hollywood specifically Germanic white or something?

Tryin' really hard to think of white saviour stories in my language, and drawing a blank. :( It's more like rich saviour to the poor underclass usually.

Just how far in your ears are your fingers, if you don't mind me asking?

Great! Now if only that was what we were actually discussing.

Or is your default argument for anything race related always "non-whites were super bloodthirsty too"?

Someone's SJW is showing

lol okay, crazy

Slavery has been a thing for thousands and thousands of years.

There is, however, a difference between slavery as practised for millennia by people worldwide, and the chattel slavery practised by the Europeans during the ~age of exploration~.

Ooooh do tell us more about how one type of slavery is worse than another type of slavery!

I read "different" not "worse". And there are differences between how the various classical forms of slavery were practiced and the Atlantic slave trade - for example, classical slavery didn't involve transporting large numbers of slave shipments across an obstacle as big as an ocean.

It's a good thing all those Africans helped sell their own people into slavery, huh?

"Africans" is not a people, but actually a continent made up of numerous countries, cultures, and races that have various alliances and conflicts with each other, similar to all those Europeans and their massive wars with each other.

I don't apply U.S. American prejudicial lines to the rest of the world and especially not to world history, maybe you shouldn't, either.

Same culture/race/whatever or not, they still weren't white.

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darkmanifest - 2014-03-28 04:57 (UTC) - Expand

And so is Europe, but they're still called Europeans/white. It is a fact that 'black' people sold other black people to white slave traders.

oh yes. only Europeans ever were monsters using a system.

I know you SJW's hate the bible, but that whole "jews in egypt" thing has other sources you know.

And since you all don't even want to think Cleopatra had white features, you'll probably be willing to acknowledge that neither did most of those egyptians. You know, the ones that owned all the slaves and did some fairly horrible stuff to them.

Edited 2014-03-28 02:46 (UTC)

but that whole "jews in egypt" thing has other sources you know

Aside from the Bible? No it doesn't, that I've heard. Can you cite some? This would be news to me, as a historian. It's widely considered to be a myth because there is virtually no evidence it ever happened.

Uh, pretty sure you shouldn't use "chattel" to distinguish European slavery, since that's pretty much the standard form throughout history.

1. race is a social construct 2. social constructs are historically variable 3. after a certain point it becomes unproductive and methodologically questionable to continue working with modern race categories

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