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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-27 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #2641 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2641 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
WHAT. HOW.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Because 130 years ago, they would have been. Study some fucking history.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Regarded as an inferior and debased and racially different sort of white people, yes. Regarded as being any sort of colour comparable to non-Europeans? Absolutely not. I expect your mind can't admit the possibility that racism can involve one set of white people oppressing another set of white people which is where the idea of (mis)applying the very contemporary term and concept of POC to the historic oppression of Irish people comes into play. And before you ask, I've studied some fucking history. I have a degree in it from an Irish university.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
How much did your Irish university teach you about American racism? Because when Irish people first immigrated here, they weren't considered white. The same thing for Italians, Eastern Europeans, etc - for a long time 'white' meant Anglo-Saxon protestant, period.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
And all the retrofitting of history in the world at whatever excuse for an educational institution you went to won't make mid-19th century Irish people into Persons of Colour simply so that you don't have to cope with the notion that white-on-white racism is a real thing. Full stop.

You have a very specific, very contemporary, and very limited notion of what racism is and you are trying to shoe-horn the event of the past into that paradigm. Good luck with that.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Let's be honest, they probably learned it from tumblr.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
"for a long time 'white' meant Anglo-Saxon protestant" because racism started only once there was social Darwinism.