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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-28 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2642 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2642 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Homestuck]


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[Michelle Lee]


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[Ping Pong the Animation]


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[Lord of the Rings]


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14. [SPOILERS for Pandora Hearts]



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Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
DA. How is it judgmental? I see it more as extreme curiosity about the subject, bordering on nosy, but we're talking telepathy here anyway.

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but this part: To see if they 100% don't believe in God(s) or if they, the religious people, actually believe what they claim to believe.

That does come across as somewhat judgemental to me. It seems to assume a base dishonesty in how much people believe compared to how much they profess to believe. Which may or may not be the case, but the whole 'I want to see how much you truly believe' does strike me as judgemental.

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm the anon who said it sounded judgemental. The anon above me summed it up perfectly. There is a verse in the Christian scriptures about working out one's own salvation, instead of focusing on whether or not others are working out theirs.

Assuming the OP is even Christian, that is. Maybe OP is an atheist? As a believer, it's definitely not something I worry about, or even need to know, as far as others are concerned.

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Then why do you care so much?

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

...I don't? I just said it seemed judgemental to me. Unless you're just trolling, if so, my apologies. We seem to have wandered off into an interesting conversation instead. :-)

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Knowing the truth about someone is judgmental? You are fine with never knowing if someone is lying to you? Ignorance IS your bliss?

Weird.

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

It was more the assumption that people, unless the option is removed, will by lying that seemed judgemental. Some people might be, but I'm not going to doubt everyone who says they believe just because I don't have a window into their heads.

Also, the OP didn't say 'I want to know when people are lying', they said 'I want to know if they really believe'. Not a general lie detector, but a specific one focused purely on questions of their personal faith. Of all the things I might want to know someone was lying about, whether they secretly harbour doubts about the afterlife isn't one of them. Some people may be hypocrites out to cause damage, but others aren't, and their doubts and fears in that area aren't something I feel any particular need to drag out into the light.

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I am AYRT, and I didn't write the above response. (The sub-threads can be hard to keep track of, I realize.) Though I agree with anon above me.

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I was going by the specific comment they replied to, which was one of mine, rather than the overall thread.

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
'S'OK, I've done it myself. :-)

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Those things can be determined without telepathy. Granted, sometimes after the fact, but you'll still find out, one way or another. If you are observant enough, or if the person lying to you slips up, both of which eventually do tend to happen. As for "knowing the truth about someone" iceyred and I are discussing below the problem with this, as people's emotions and feeling on the matter change from time to time. So, it might be "the truth about someone" at that time, but that truth might be different ten seconds, ten hours, or even ten years, later on, for the very same person. Based on their experiences/motivations/feelings/inspirations/etc.

I am not a proponent of "ignorance is bliss" in fact I believe quite the opposite. Although that tends to be a blanket insult, hurled by atheists at believers....I do acknowledge there are quite a few (so-called) Christian denominations that take this tack, but I am non-denominational, so.