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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-28 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2642 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2642 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Homestuck]


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[Michelle Lee]


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[Ping Pong the Animation]


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[Lord of the Rings]


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14. [SPOILERS for Pandora Hearts]



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15. [WARNING for sexual/emotional abuse]
















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Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
How is it judgemental? I want to see if people say one thing and actually believe another.

Does the preacher on the pulpit asking for millions of dollars from his flock to build a megachurch in order to bring the word of God to others actually believe in God or is he doing it for money and fame?

Is the atheist with the best selling book about how God doesn't exist secretly faking his disbelief? If so, why?

Aren't you curious?

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I think there's an assumption that you'd look down on people who didn't match up.

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that's where the judgement would come in.

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
If they are trying to make off money or get power over those who don't believe or believe by faking a belief or disbelief, you wouldn't look down on them?

We aren't talking the common every day person. We are talking people who a shilling books and making laws.

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
No, I wouldn't look down on them. (There are a lot of folks like that in my church leadership, actually, and I don't look down on them.) Because that would make my faith not worth the paper it's printed on. (Quite literally.)

It isn't my place to judge those who are taking advantage of others, that (by my beliefs) is for God to judge. Because it is not outside the realm of possibility that one of those people shilling books may one day be called to not take advantage of the weak and powerless, and they may repent/change their lives.

Basically, everyone has a chance. In my particular beliefs, everyone will have a chance, eventually (so that's the "afterlife" belief OP would see in my head). So, if everyone has the capacity to change themselves, and at some point in the future, they will make the choice to change their ways (or not, in which case, God will judge them), why should I judge them at all?

Sorry. That probably sounds a bit more complex than it actually is.

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I am a believer, and as I answered the anon above, no, I'm not curious. Both of the examples you cite speak for themselves. Trust me, Godcorp's CEO ain't in it for the spiritual power of the magic green hankies he's pushing on late-night TV. As for the "best-selling atheist who secretly believes in God" in my tradition, belief or unbelief of others is irrelevant; we don't ask what people believe, nor even if they believe, nor do we tell others we are believers; rather, we observe what people do. (And pray constantly that what we do, reflects well, instead of poorly, on the faith in general.)

The other issue that immediately presents itself to my mind is, what if you happen to be interacting with someone who is having a moment of spiritual weakness? Or a terrible crisis of faith? You would walk away thinking they are terrible hypocrites (and you would, perhaps, treat them as such), when really, they've only just temporarily lost their way.