[ SECRET POST #2643 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2643 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Keller didn't love Beecher. Keller was a sociopath who used Beecher. His only concern with Beecher's feelings and welfare were in his own self interest. Push Beecher too far and he won't get him back in his control when he feels like it. Kill him and he won't be around to manipulate for Keller's own amusement.

I haven't seen all of Hannibal but it didn't seem as extreme with Hannibal and Will in the first season as Keller with Beecher.

[(Anonymous)]

I would say it is just as extreme, if not moreso, for Hannibal and Will. Hannibal allowed Will to have seizures from high fever, hallucinations, etc. (while Will pleaded with him not to lie to him), killed people he cared for, force fed him people, including the ear of someone he cared for, and framed him for murder. Among other things. He obviously has no repect for Will's feelings/desires and only does things to suit his own ends. So how is that less extreme?

[fingalsanteater]

this comment makes me want to watch Hannibal now.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT (Sorry, I didn't realize anyone had replied)

If you like emotional abuse, manipulation, and gaslighting, you'll love the show starting about halfway through the first season. I believe that Hannibal does love Will in his own twisted way, but that is definitely not a good thing for Will.

[thistlechaser]

Holy cow. Why am I not watching this show?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT (Sorry, I didn't realize anyone had replied)

If you like emotional abuse, manipulation, and gaslighting, you'll love the show beginning about halfway through the first season. I believe that Hannibal really does love Will in his own twisted way (and there is definite chemistry between them), but that is very much not a good thing for Will.

[thistlechaser]

I love those things best of all! :D Two more eps until I'm done with the first season, then on to season two! Thank you so much for this secret!

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, that's pretty much Hannibal and Will's relationship too.

[(Anonymous)]

Then why did Keller take the fall for Beecher after Beecher had Schillinger's son killed?

[(Anonymous)]

... or why he, in the end, let Keller go if not for love.

[(Anonymous)]

I disagree. Keller was very much a sociopath, but I think it was pretty clear by the end that he did love Beecher. (Which makes it an even scarier situation for poor Toby to be in, IMO, but even so)

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

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[(Anonymous)]

It sounds to me like you stopped watching Oz in the middle? The situation was a LOT more complex than that. And it was obvious fairly early on, actually: the whole Beecher/Keller dynamic changed after the first cataclysmic revelation and Beecher's recovery and never really tipped back into what you describe as 'Keller just using Beecher'. I am not even entirely convinced that's what it was at first.

Real people are usually too complicated to be reduced to a single sentence and Keller may have been a psychopath, but he was undeniably in love with Beecher. The reverse is much more debatable, in my opinion.