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⌈ Secret Post #2643 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

Classism can be particularly tricky because of how much class is often correlated with education.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

da

Eh? Classism is associated with your salary level, or lack of one, is it not? Although the education your kids get depends on that factor, isn't education in most of the rest of the world (ie not 'Murica) free or nearly-free? So how would that contribute to the 99% vs. the 1%?

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

da

No... on the education thing. Yes, education is free in some European countries, and college/grad school are cheaper almost everywhere else. But most of the world, school costs money, even gradeschool. And in countries with more poverty, education is definitely a luxury that's difficult to afford, and thus a pretty fair indicator of class.

And, though it's not a 100% thing, I think it's safe to assume there is some correlation between higher education and higher salary in the US. Most rich people, or well off people, probably do have professional degrees.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I see. Didn't know grade school (primary/elementary/secondary here) wasn't free, outside of North America. Though postsecondary education will bankrupt you (sometimes more than once) here, and now there is mounting evidence that all this highly-priced post-secondary education is actually increasing the joblessness rate, instead of decreasing it.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

Not to mention schools are just plain shittier in poorer areas, so education is not uniform.

Re: Classism in fandom

[nyxelestia]

I may be wrong, but apart from a few specific places, in most places, even if primary and/or secondary education is free, schools vary dramatically in quality based on the local wealth/the generally class and wealth of the student body.

Definitely in America (and, based on heresay, almost everywhere else), even if the school itself is free, you often have to buy things for school (school supplies) that can actually be very hard on certain families - and while schools are legally obligated to provide for students whose families cannot provide for them sometimes either they are too poor to help much, or they drag their feet to force the family to buy the supplies themselves or go without them for months at a time.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

Even if places with free education, there is also often paid alternatives. Private school and the like, that are very prestigious and very expensive to get into. Plus there is stuff like being able to afford better after school tutors and activities and other school resources. A kid that has their own laptop at home is going to do better than a kid that needs to go to the public library for access to a computer even if they both pay the same (or no) amount for the school itself.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

How educated you are does have a lot to do with perceived class, though. My father is a physicist and growing up, I definitely noticed that people were impressed by that and acted a bit differently once they found out. I'd meet other kids who seemed embarassed to say what their parents did after I said my dad was a physics professor. Professors don't get paid super duper well, so it wasn't our modest, lower-to-middle middle class family income people were reacting to.

Education can lead to a "white collar" job and, at the end of the day, "white collar" jobs are considered more respectible and higher-status than "blue collar" jobs, even though they do not always pay better. I know a public defender who says he made more working construction than as a lawyer, but I'm sure people perceive him differently now that he's a lawyer than they would have when he built houses because lawyer = ~*respectible*~.