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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-29 03:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #2643 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2643 ⌋

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Re: Classism in fandom

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-03-29 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. Once I read a Sherlock fic where a Mary Sue OC was homeless. It was supposed to make her look tough and badass, but it only made it all the more obvious that the author was a white middle-class teenager.

Tbh I was guilty of that when I was a kid. I blame Mark Twain.

ETA: and the curious thing is that our family wasn't really well off. But we were never destitute or even very poor, either.
Edited 2014-03-29 22:02 (UTC)

Re: Classism in fandom

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's natural for little kids, though.
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Re: Classism in fandom

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-03-29 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe. It may be a part of the reason why Twain is popular in the first place.

I think kids tend to romanticize everything, so that's just one aspect of the general tendency.
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Re: Classism in fandom

[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-03-30 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I once wrote a fanfic in which the main character was homeless for a time and lived on the street, as I did for a while myself, when younger. I was surprised how many readers were fascinated by that aspect. It's true, they do think it's cool. Especially my teenage readers. The concept of it being cool actually passed me by so hard that I didn't realise what their reaction meant until you explained it just there.

While in many ways, it's interesting to be homeless, in the same way having a broken leg is interesting, it's something that's better reflected on from a more comfortable present. It definitely does not make you badass. More like more vulnerable.
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Re: Classism in fandom

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-03-30 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
As the anon below mentioned, a lot of people see homelessness as a "free from societal constraints" situation and don't really realize just how much it fucking sucks and doesn't really free you from anything so much as take you out of the frying pan and drop you into the fire.

I've never even been homeless, and I still want to smack people who romanticize poverty. It's one thing if you are using it as a way to viably add to a character's background - in the same way people use things like war or abuse or whatever to provide an interesting background that contributes to a present characterization. But when it becomes a plot device for its own sake or a romanticized settings, nine times out of ten I close the tab and don't look back.

Re: Classism in fandom

(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
I think for kids and teens, living on the street suggests things like a lack of patental supervision, maybe not having to go to school, etc., and to kids that sort of thing sounds awesome.

Re: Classism in fandom

(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
The author could have been black or any other race, just saying. There are middle class people who are not white.
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Re: Classism in fandom

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-03-30 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, sure. I didn't mean to say there aren't. I used the "white middle-class" cliche ironically rather than to indicate the actual state of affairs. Maybe I shouldn't have done that.

Re: Classism in fandom

(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, it was me being too touchy!
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Re: Classism in fandom

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-03-31 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
That's all right! It was pretty stupid of me.